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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Which Headers???

Hey guys which Headers would you say would be the best for a 2001 WS6 that will be remaining emmisions legal.
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Just ordered my FLP's today!
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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I'm very happy with my QTPs.

I haven't looked at their site in a while though...so I have no idea if Barry has got around to making the cat Y-pipe yet or not. Or, I guess you could just go the custom Y route.
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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No long tubes are emmision legal because the cats are moved.
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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What about PPC???

http://www.provenperformanceconcepts.com/
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by AL SS590 M6
No long tubes are emmision legal because the cats are moved.
what i dont understand even if you move the cats but still have them on in a diffrent spot how is that illegal, you still at least have cats
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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what i dont understand even if you move the cats but still have them on in a diffrent spot how is that illegal, you still at least have cats
Because the cats are now father away from the combustuion cycle (exhaust valve portion), which means the exhaust is now cooler. This equals to a longer period of 'open loop', which allows the cats to fully warm up and burn the need emission as per manufactured. Relocating them means they, for how ever much longer, cannot operate and burn off the emission from the combustion cycle. Therefore you have succesfully increased your emission output by adding long tube headers, let alone some cars run richer with a freer flowing exhaust (mine and two others' I know did).
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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Because the cats are now father away from the combustuion cycle (exhaust valve portion), which means the exhaust is now cooler. This equals to a longer period of 'open loop', which allows the cats to fully warm up and burn the need emission as per manufactured. Relocating them means they, for how ever much longer, cannot operate and burn off the emission from the combustion cycle. Therefore you have succesfully increased your emission output by adding long tube headers, let alone some cars run richer with a freer flowing exhaust (mine and two others' I know did).
well that explains that thanks, now i know, because i was thinking how many mechanics know if the cats where moved unless they look, so even having cats on with Lt's you still might fail the emissions test, that sucks i wonder if ide get away with it, pa has strick inspections
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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CA is strict too. Sure, you can purchase C.A.R.B.-legal headers (California Air Resources Board) approved, but the State has circumvented a way around that too: by requiring you to pass a "visual" inspection as well. If they open the hood and see anything besides stock exhaust manifolds, you could fail. Of course the trick is to find a shop that checks emissions that "doesn't necessarily pay too much attention to that kind of stuff"... if you know what I mean

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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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CA is strict too. Sure, you can purchase C.A.R.B.-legal headers (California Air Resources Board) approved, but the State has circumvented a way around that too: by requiring you to pass a "visual" inspection as well. If they open the hood and see anything besides stock exhaust manifolds, you could fail. Of course the trick is to find a shop that checks emissions that "doesn't necessarily pay too much attention to that kind of stuff"... if you know what I mean

Daryl
yeah that sucks, maybe ill go with shorties or mids, then they cant touch me
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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mids still involve moving the cats. the shorties won't though, but they are pretty much good for nothing.
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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mids still involve moving the cats. the shorties won't though, but they are pretty much good for nothing.
wow that sucks to i thought just the LT's involved moving the cats, and theres no diffrence with shorties at all, and if i decided to go with shorties which brand is the best for flow or just keep the stocks on
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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There's practically no difference in the stock manifolds and shorties. They aren't worth buying and sure as hell aren't worth the pain of switching out.
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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There's practically no difference in the stock manifolds and shorties. They aren't worth buying and sure as hell aren't worth the pain of switching out.
ok thanks, im bummed now



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