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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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Good dyno #s

I was just wanting to know what are good dyno #s for a heads/ cam LS1 ? A friend of mine which i would not believe it if i wasnt their put down 463rwhp on a mustang dyno with LPE heads and gm performance parts road race cam ,with headers and flow master exhaust and ed wright tuning.. Does this seem high or is it about the same as the rest of you guys are making?
Old Jul 26, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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Well it all depends on how big of a cam you put in, the average Id say with a very streetable cam 224/224 and a stage 2 head are usually in the range of 430 at the wheels. Though you can put in some stage 3 heads and a very large cam and push insane numbers, but you suffer streetability.

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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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I think the answer you're looking for is that's a phenomenal number. It's way above average, just as you thought. In fact, I am inclined to question whether there are extra cubes in that motor. 463 rwhp on a Mustang dyno? That's got to be close to 500 rwhp SAE on a dynojet. As far as I knew, the extreme edge of NA power on 346 cubes was 47X rwhp SAE on a dynojet, achieved only by Cartek and LG motorsports.

Do those LPE heads have nitrous foggers built-in?

The ASA cam (what your friend probably has) is not regarded as the best cam choice for flat-out HP. It's a road-race cam. Here's a description:
This camshaft is designed for ASA racing and has .525" lift on 110* center line with 226 degree intake and 236 degree exhaust duration
Old Jul 26, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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The car is stock bottom end with no nitrous at all ... The cam is asa but the lift #s are over 600 i think and the duration is 240s to 250 range i will find out ....The guys car is an 2002 trans am ram air with a 6 spee.... I am not trying to say his cars dyno#s are the highest because i dont know but i do know on a mustang dyno his #s are about the same as louis's car (LG Motorsports) on a dyno jet dyno ... I thought people might want to know about this car because he is making good power with a GM performance parts cam...........
Old Jul 26, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Is he running the LPE Stage 2 LS-6 or 1 heads?
Old Jul 26, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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I'm assuming he got the larger ASA cam. Specs are 239/251 (.570/.570) Just like most ASA cams, it has monster duration and low lift. I'd love to see the graph. How does the car run in the lower RPM's? It seems as if he would have to reem the guts out of it with that big of a duration. See if you can find some way to post the graph.
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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I will try to get a graph posted . The lower rpms sound kinda rough but i have never drove the car it has alot of lope and yes that is the cam i thought the lift was bigger but thats the cam duration is huge though.......................Do you like the cam you run in your 96z those are good times in your sig......What does your car weigh....Who did your heads......... thanks
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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Obviously your friend is doing something right if he is making those numbers on a mustang dyno. I loved my cam, but the car is back to stock now. The car is fixing to go up for sale so I can do a few things to the 02' in my sig. . This is why I am so interested in what your buddies car is doing, cause I already wanted the Lingenfelter heads, I was just looking for a cam that would work well with them. My heads were done by a local porter. If you can't post the graph, try and e-mail it or have your friend e-mail it to me. I'm real interested in the low-end numbers with such a large cam. Beast96Z@team.camaroz28.com Thanks
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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Dayum! I've never heard of such high numbers. Is it a full solid-roller set-up? Aluminum flywheel, carbon-fiber driveshaft and all the other tricks? My Stage II heads and pretty rowdy cam put 425 to the wheels and that's getting close to the edge of fun drivability. I'd like to hear all the specs on the car if you have them. Not flaming, just find it hard to believe 463 on a Mustang dyno.
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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The car is hydr. roller and as far as i know except for the heads and cam LTs and flowmaster exhaust the rest is stock I will get a hold chris the guy who owns the car or the dyno shop to get a graph ...... But i will need somone to host it i dont know how to put it on here......The #s are real what the car produced the owner of the car doesnt even know about this thread i was just wanting to know for myself i have seen LGs #s and carteks and his are higher....... Just thought some of the LS1 guys might want to know about the cam..........
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Hyd roller? Not even full bolt-ons? I'm really kind of skeptical now. Even the solid cam cars at 7200 rpm were only making 470some rwhp on 346ci. They had the benefit of a gamut of dyno aids including lightweight driveline components. Not flaming, or trying to be a PITA, but something doesn't sound right. Who did the tuning?
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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Nevermind, I reread and saw "Ed Wright tuning." He made that kind of power with mail-order tuning? Please post more info on the car as I am stunned by this...
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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It is possible with the right combination. Cartek put 472 to the rear wheel with LS-6 heads and a 224 hydraulic roller, so a cam of this calliber matched to a good set of heads is deffinatlly worthy of doing it. LPE, e-mail me the graph and I can get it hosted. I'm just worried about low-end power with a cam that big.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Those #'s are for real...

I set the car up for this guy at the dealership I work at and was really impressed myself. Did not think it would produce those kind of numbers. The car is kinda of weak on the low end by once it hits 3k it runs like it is on fire. The cam is set for road racing which explains the low end problem.......When we dynoed it we were 250 pounds heavy on the weight and still produced 463 at the rear wheel.....since then we got the car weighed are we are taking it down to Kenny Brown to get it on the dynojet.....



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