Now I am sure this question has been asked before and I am sorry if you are tired of hearing it but I want the right info. Stock on stock, same year (lets say 2000 or 2001) ram air WS6 or SS, which is faster? I am asking for 0-60 and 1/4 and top speed. I also have a couple of other questions. What makes the firehawk faster then a ram air WS6 if that's right? Please correct me if I am wrong. Also is it true that a SS is no faster then a Z28? Again I know you guys are probably tired of hearing this question and the only reason I am asking is because I want to know the right information when someone asks me so I am not putting up B.S. Thanks for any help you can give me.

 

Thats WS6 and for the most part all the LS1 Fbods are so close its probably not worth mentioning. Mostly it would come down to driver. Most LS1 Fbods post 13.3 to 13.6 at 105ish some are known to go faster some slower. Some claim high 12s factory stock. Like I said driver can have alot to do with it. MT had a 2002 SS M6 go 13.5 at 107 and 0-60 at 5.2 sec. I think they had a 2001 WS6 do similar. Most of the Fbods will do high 150s maybe on a good day 160s. I can say from my own experiance, My bone stock 2002 Z28 m6 went 13.3 at 107 with a 2.2 60'. I had 1500 miles on the clock and it was roasting out. I also used factory RSA's. So thats probably a good round look at Fbody performance

 

You mean WS6? I don't know much about the WS6, but SS is indeed, just an appearance package for the camaro. The ram air on the SS is basically useless. WS6 ram air however is the best.

 

If I remember right the Firehawk has better exhaust, Auburn goodies in the rearend probably other things like susp and floor mats and key fobs and stitched numbers in the carpet.

 

SS and WS6 have the ram air and a better flowing muffler, with a catback and lid available as options on the SS (dont know about the WS6) the hawk has the lid and catback standard.

all of them have upgraded suspension and 17 in wheels/tires.

in a drag race the SS, WS6, Hawk, Z28, T/A and Formula are all very close. though the Hawk or an SS with the lid and catback options should in theory be a tad faster than the others, some cars are just faster than others. You could end up with a bit of a dud Hawk, and a Ringer T/A and the T/A would win. assuming the drivers were of equal skill, and the transmissions were the same type.

in a road race the Hawk, SS and WS6 should have a decicive advantage over the Z, T/A and Formula...

 

So what your basically saying is....If you bought an SS with intent to modify it, your an idiot. If you bought a ws6 with intent to modify it, your an idiot. =]

 

You guys speculate way to much..

Bottom line is this...

Using the same year car and the same driver, there is no way to tell since some cars are faster than others.

Otherwise it depends on year and driver.

you simply cant know which car is faster..

The Z28 - SS - TA - Formula - WS6 - Firehawk All have the same motor..

So who has the better driver? which car is lighter during the race...? and what year is it?

You cannot answer this question

 

Read above. That sums it up very well.


Huh? How is there an advantage? You really think that the ram air affects peformance that much. I can see a small advantage when going 70+, but nah I don't think so.

 

Dude, the Firehawk, WS6, and SS would have an advantage in a road race stock for stock because they come from the factory with better suspension and 17 inch tires!!! They're supposed to handle a bit better.

 

Remember that in a road race its basically mostly driver...

 

I agree with what was said about the cars, they are all close in power and performance.

it does mostly depend on the driver. These guys at MT aren't driving an SS, TA, Firehawk, Formula, or Z everyday. They simply test the car. People have pulled high 12s and in a stock z28 and I'm one of them (12.93 to be exact).

The upgrades to SS, WS6, and Firehawk make a difference but not a big one. There are better suspension components, bigger wheels, and better tires, but they are mostlly cosmetic upgrades.

 

true, but in comparing cars you have to take driver skill out of the equasion. so when someone asks which is faster, you must assume equal drivers. in this case the upgraded suspensions WILL have an advantage. (also assuming they are all same tranny, and all coupes, or verts)

Obviously jo schmoe in a firehwak or SS is going have is butt handed to him if he races a professional driver in a Z28 or T/A. but that isnt comparing cars. its comparing drivers.

jd13, when I said road race, I meant as in Auto X. not like on the highway. I doubt the cars would get up to speed long enough to really utilize ram air in a tight road course. (I could be wrong) not that the stocn ram air does that much anyway...

 

to sum it up 01 and 02 are alittle faster then the previous years but other than that they are all to close to make a difference.

 

Speaking for model year 2002 only (the only year I care about ), I wouldn't call a 32mm sway bar "better suspension", especially considering you can get one for $100, bolt it on in an hour, and not void your warranty.

The tires are marginally better as well. More tread but shorter sidewall. Basically more grippy but less forgiving. There are always tradeoffs...

I'd have to say it's a driver's race - strip, street, or track.

 

Didnt the Firehawk have a tad more power than the others? Like with the blackwing type of lid and whatnot? Wouldnt that net it more power realistically? Just wondering..