LS1 Based Engine Tech LS1 / LS6 / LS2 / LS3 / LS7 Engine Tech

Engine knock when cold

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-05-2007, 08:29 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rel3rd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Middle River MD
Posts: 133
Question Engine knock when cold

I just picked up this 2000 SS Camaro a week and a half ago.

When engine is cold, it has a noticeable "knock" that sounds like a rod knock. It is definitely NOT a valve tap...it sounds much deeper.

When engine is warmed up, the noise is all but non-existent.

Oil pressure reads 60psi at light throttle cruise
Just shy of 40psi at warm idle
50psi at cold idle.

Original owner said he used Mobil1 only.
Engine has 110,000 miles but runs fantastic.

If you rev the engine up, noise is gone...or at least I cannot hear it then.

I tried SEARCH function here and elsewhere and most engine knocks seem to be when HOT, not when COLD....

Any ideas?
rel3rd is offline  
Old 07-05-2007, 09:39 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
95LT1conv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: putnam, Ct
Posts: 916
sounds like piston slap. "normal" in a ls1 I believe.
95LT1conv is offline  
Old 07-06-2007, 07:13 AM
  #3  
Moderator
 
AL SS590 M6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1998
Location: Charlotte,MI USA
Posts: 6,249
Originally Posted by 95LT1conv
sounds like piston slap. "normal" in a ls1 I believe.
Yes it's quite normal in an LS engine. They have a very short skirted aluminum piston that can rattle when cold but it expands as it warms up and the noise goes away, usually within a minute or so.
AL SS590 M6 is offline  
Old 07-06-2007, 10:52 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
Marc 85Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: MD
Posts: 2,022
Again, normal for LS1s according to GM. Some do it, some don't. Do a search on "piston slap" for TONS more info. And while you're searching, there is a lot of information on engine oils, and why Mobil 1 products (especially as of late) are not optimum for the LS1. Some people have had success quieting the noise with a different oil.

Last edited by Marc 85Z28; 07-06-2007 at 10:54 AM.
Marc 85Z28 is offline  
Old 07-06-2007, 02:35 PM
  #5  
Retired
 
Kraest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Inside Uranus
Posts: 3,167
Welcome to the LS1. Please try the fish
Kraest is offline  
Old 07-06-2007, 02:44 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
Stevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Springfield, VA
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Again, normal for LS1s according to GM. Some do it, some don't. Do a search on "piston slap" for TONS more info. And while you're searching, there is a lot of information on engine oils, and why Mobil 1 products (especially as of late) are not optimum for the LS1. Some people have had success quieting the noise with a different oil.
What oil do you use for your LS1?
Stevo is offline  
Old 07-06-2007, 08:22 PM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rel3rd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Middle River MD
Posts: 133
Originally Posted by Stevo
What oil do you use for your LS1?
I'm also wondering what is, or may be, better for this car...
Most of what I could find last night said Mobil 1
rel3rd is offline  
Old 07-06-2007, 08:24 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rel3rd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Middle River MD
Posts: 133
BTW, thanks for the replies guys...I can live with a "normal noise" that all but goes away...
rel3rd is offline  
Old 07-07-2007, 10:11 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Marc 85Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: MD
Posts: 2,022
Originally Posted by Stevo
What oil do you use for your LS1?
I use synthetic oil in all of my vehicles. And since Mobil 1 no longer makes a true synthetic oil, I use Castrol Syntec and Amsoil.
Marc 85Z28 is offline  
Old 07-09-2007, 07:47 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
hurraquio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 37
I used Penzoil 10/30 this oil change and its ok. next oilchange im thinking Advance Q or Royal Purple
hurraquio is offline  
Old 07-11-2007, 02:58 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
Bobsep84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hoffman Estates, IL
Posts: 168
I have an LT1 and use Mobil 1 0w-40....from what i read this a great oil for the LSx and LTx
Bobsep84 is offline  
Old 07-12-2007, 05:05 AM
  #12  
Moderator
 
AL SS590 M6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1998
Location: Charlotte,MI USA
Posts: 6,249
Originally Posted by Bobsep84
I have an LT1 and use Mobil 1 0w-40....from what i read this a great oil for the LSx and LTx

Except for the fact that in the manual in a warning bubble it says not to run any oil thicker than 30w.
AL SS590 M6 is offline  
Old 07-15-2007, 10:37 AM
  #13  
Registered User
 
camaroz2866's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 132
its a perforamnce motor, thicker oil will not hurt it any, im in the road racing scene and we have 2.3L 4cylinders using 15/50 full syn for a couple of seasons they last thats a few years of every weekend running the **** out of these at almost 8grand
camaroz2866 is offline  
Old 07-15-2007, 12:33 PM
  #14  
Retired
 
Kraest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Inside Uranus
Posts: 3,167
Originally Posted by camaroz2866
its a perforamnce motor, thicker oil will not hurt it any, im in the road racing scene and we have 2.3L 4cylinders using 15/50 full syn for a couple of seasons they last thats a few years of every weekend running the **** out of these at almost 8grand
That's true.........






..........If you're running a 2.3L 4-banger



Kraest is offline  
Old 07-15-2007, 06:42 PM
  #15  
Moderator
 
AL SS590 M6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1998
Location: Charlotte,MI USA
Posts: 6,249
Originally Posted by camaroz2866
its a perforamnce motor, thicker oil will not hurt it any, im in the road racing scene and we have 2.3L 4cylinders using 15/50 full syn for a couple of seasons they last thats a few years of every weekend running the **** out of these at almost 8grand
It's got nothing to do with whether it's a performance motor or not. It's all about oil clearances in the bearings. LSx factory oil clearances are designed for 30 weight oil and running thicker oil reduces the amount of oil per minute the flows thru that gap causing excess heat at the bearing surfaces.

And who gives 2 cants for how you abuse a 4 banger?
AL SS590 M6 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dbusch22
Forced Induction
6
10-31-2016 11:09 AM
jayblev95
LT1 Based Engine Tech
12
12-01-2014 06:55 AM
thenewkid
New Member Introduction
5
11-27-2014 09:41 AM
Lions3
LT1 Based Engine Tech
20
04-11-2003 10:55 AM
NJ SPEEDER
Drag Racing Technique
2
07-19-2002 10:22 PM



Quick Reply: Engine knock when cold



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 AM.