I dont believe the firebirds have adjustable headrests.

 

 

This is from a '94:
http://mack98107.tripod.com/forsale/...0/interior.bmp (it won't link in directly)

AFAIK, all 4th-gen Firebirds have it. I could be wrong. Yours doesn't?

 

My 96 TA has adjustable headrests. I have never heard the holes in the firebird mirrors called "speed holes." The spoiler on the back of my TA does kind of obstruct my view, but these cars have bad blind spots anyway.

 

Yeah, I didn't know what to call them, so I made something up. Hence the quotes.

 

I decided to see if maybe I was just way off the mark:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=484734

 

If I was looking for an LS1 car at the moment, I would definitely be looking into this one:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...00&cardist=700

 

Not much difference between a dart and an arrow...

 

If he's looking for a car that's going to be stored 350 days a year and only driven to and from shows on sunny days, and wants to blow his money on that sort of thing, then by all means.

But if he's looking for a car to drive all the time, I think that should be one of the last Camaros on his list.

 

What are you talking about? $21k for basically a brand new car. Who said anything about parking it or driving it to shows? That's a damn nice car to start with. It just depends on what he's looking for and his budget. If he wants a cheap car to race... buy a piece of ****, strip it down to bare bones and spray the hell out of it. A badass streetcar... start with something like the SS above, do the basic mods and a H/C package and you've got about $25-26K in a dependable, over 400HP car that's basically brand new with only 6k miles, won't have to be painted anywhere in the near future, interior is flawless, no f'd up window motors, no f'd up stereo, no wierd smell from the last skanky *** owner, etc. etc. Just my opinion.

I'm also thinking about this from a "new car" standpoint... I mean.. when I wanted an 02 SS only 4 years ago... they were what? $31-33K... somewhere in there. Now it's down to $20-21K and I would bet that car is in as good of shape as it was in 02. Only 2 oil changes since it was cranked.

 

Well, thats what it's called. If you want to be technical about it, the "bowtie" is based on the Swiss cross since Mr Chevrolet was Swiss. It has nothing to do with a bowtie either, but thats sure what it gets called. Kind of like the GTO/Goat, SBC/mouse BBC/rat, a large Mopar engine/elephant, etc etc etc... They don't have much to do with each other but thats what they're called.

How can someone be wrong about a nickname, Turbo???

 

I paid $14k for my Z28 with 40,000 miles on it (sticker says it was $29k new). Aside from the number displayed on the odometer, I challenge you to find something that's better about the other car. Mine has been well cared for, and actually driving a car is better than letting it sit for long periods of time. The car is five years old, and it has 6000 miles on it? That's practically a guarantee that it's been started with no oil on the valvetrain at least a handful of times.

A truly new car is one thing, but a barely-used older car is a huge gamble.

 

Are you just looking for something to type about?

To answer your challenge... it's an SS for one. Which means the rear spoiler, hood, a few suspension upgrades, hurst shifter, etc... which are all things that a lot people like to clone anyway. Plus it has the notoriety of being an SS... which, admit it or not, is more appealing to most. The wheels... well, I would change those anyway, but they're a far cry from the stockers on a base Z28. As far as performance, you're right... no real difference.

You don't know that that car hasn't been started up every week and maintained perfectly. There is no guarantee that it has been set in a garage and forgotten.

Like I said before... it looks like a good car to check in to.

 

No, I take issue with your suggestion. The original poster didn't say he was looking for a mint low-mileage SS, and that means it'd be silly of him to spend the extra ~$4,000-7,000 on one.
Fine, but you can get an '02 SS with 40,000 on it for under 15,000. I wasn't debating Z28 vs. SS -- that much is obvious. I was debating about what advantages there could possibly be to buying a 6,000 mile car vs a 40,000 mile car when both are out of warranty, especially considering the price premium.
Fair enough, that's a possibility, but it's a gamble that you take with the SS, and it's pretty much not a concern for a vehicle with a more typical number on the odometer.
For someone that's looking for a car to drive, I completely disagree. It's simply not worth that much money! Hence the debate.

 

Yeah I gotta say I'm with Jake on this debate. I would take a 02' car that has 40,000 on it over one that only has 6,000. Just my personal opinion of course. I'm not looking for something that is basically brand new. I don't have the money for something like that. Plus the point of this thread was the differences between SS & TA. Just letting yall know so u can stop arguing over it.