which one is the best for my daily driven application? i have a spec II and am going to have 4.10s. I will have stock manifolds and straight pipes. i want more power with daily drivability. I think either will be a good setup with my M6.
I have similar questions on other threads but i need input, i dont know much about cams. Thank you fellas.

 

You might as well get the LS6 intake and LT's before you get the cam. Because without them you won't be making much power with cam only.

TONY

 

i would do the TR224 personally..

it has been tried and tested and is a known performer.

and you would be able to get a good mailorder tune if you needed it (no dyno around).

i'm skeptical about new products...till they get street tested.


then again, my cam was semi new....but hey....

 

I ran our 224R camshaft for quite a while when I had my '02 SS A4, and it worked great! The best I ran with stock heads and all of the bolt-ons with that cam was an 11.62! It's imperative to have a set of long tube headers and ideally an off-road y-pipe in place before doing a cam swap because it will really choke the breathing ability of the engine down. The PaceSetter long tube headers are the most popular ones we sell ($374.99 with ceramic coating!), and they are nearly identical in design to the Hookers and Jet Hots.

I picked up right at 40 RWHP with our 224R camshaft, and I ran the one on a 112 LSA. It is a VERY streetable camshaft and is a very popular choice for an overall great street/strip setup with great street manners. We can have it ground on a 114 LSA for you if you prefer a slightly smoother idle quality.

Feel free to give me a call or e-mail me at trevor@texas-speed.com if you have any questions or concerns. I will be more than happy to help you choose the best camshaft for your setup.

Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance

 

Hmmmm...

Notice the difference in exhaust duration for the two cams, and you could conclude on your own which would work better for the factory manifolds.

If you're not going to put headers on the car, you may be better off by not going with the TR224 cam as it doesn't have the extra 15 degrees of exhaust duration the first cam does. The single pattern cams are for cars with full exhaust systems- not restrictive manifolds.

Ben T.

 

A guy on ls1tech reports 395rwhp for his bolt-on car with the cheatr cam through stock manifolds and converters. Impressive.

Then, on a 100-shot, he reports ~494 at the wheels.

All with a stock idle, the ultimate sleeper.

Studytime

 

that seems really hard to beleive.

i've got most of the boltons, headers and a 233 cam..and only making mid 390s.

then again, not all dynos are equal

 

Not all cars are equal either. You have to see what he was dynoing prior to see how much of a gain. If the car dynoed 345 whp w/bolt ons. That would be a 45 hp gain from the cam. Which is feasable.
If you had someone that only dynoed 320 whp prior, the cam would only get them to 365 whp. The cam still added as much power, but doesn't look as impressive when you only look at the peak hp after the mod.

I've been checking out the CheaTR, and the only one's I remember w/ #'s like that were full bolt on. I could be wrong though.

 

Well, I have to correct myself. He goes by Patrick G
(5th LS1 project car) M6, AFR 205s,Thunder Racing 215/230 .600/.578 CheaTR cam, LS6 intake, ported TB, Hurst w/LSS, MTI CF lid, ASP UD pulley, stock exhaust manifolds and cats, SLP Dual/Dual catback. 395 rwhp/376rwtq N/A, 494 rwhp, 510 rwtq with NX MAF system and 100hp jets.

But he does have aftermarket heads which makes a BIG difference. You'll put down much less w/stock heads.

Just dug this up. Stock heads: 363 hp 358 lb/ft, thats up from 329hp and 333lb/ft.

I haven't been able to find any numbers on it, but what are full bolt on cars turning w/the 02 LS6 cam?

 

well full bolton cars run 340ish...so 20hp from the LS6 cam is logical. so i wold say right around 360.

but 365 through stock manifolds and cats...that's nice

 

If one is planning a mild daily driver, you're right- this is very nice. You could almost just do a cam instead of headers. No exhaust leaks this way or low-hanging flanges.

I know I'm impressed already, but I'd like to see some times from some of these cars.

Ben

 

I have mid-lengths and I don't have any exhaust leaks or low hanging flanges.

 

Yeah, same here. No leaks or low hanging flanges, but then again I don't make the low-end torque that long tubes produce... although we would make the same PEAK rwhp as a long tube equipped car WITH our mid-length headers.

Ben