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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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cam size question

I am wondering how this cam would affect the streetability of my car, and also how it would affect a stock car... I saw it for 350 here in SA and I have no clue about cams, would I need anything other than the cam, such as rods etc? He said springs come with it, but thats it.

Cam specs are:
230/224 .575/.563

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Jared
Old Mar 7, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Re: cam size question

I have that same cam from Thunder Racing. If you are getting it for $350 with springs, then jump on it. I paid $300 for just the cam. You will need a tune for it though.
For that cam, you will need THE LEAST the springs. You can always add the rest later.
My tuner had my cam, and the drivabilty was good, as long as your tuner can tune it.
Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Get hardened PR's! First bent one and you'll know why.
While in there go ahead and put on an LS2 timing chain. Its cheap insurance ($35).

What kind of springs are you getting with it and how many miles are on them?
Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Re: cam size question

not sure, Ill check tonight and post up... not sure if Im getting it yet and if I do probly wont go in untill this summer.

Thanks for the help so far.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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with a good tune the car should be pretty decent on the street. although you'll really need to put a bigger converter in it to take advantage of the setup. something in the area of 3200-3500 would be my guess.

for a cam swap you should do some things as insurance against future falure.

but you'll need

cam
springs
hardened pushrods
timing chain

since you have the 01, you don't need the upgraded oil pump.

you'll really be choking that cam if you don't run headers, so those are something to think about buying
Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Re: cam size question

Originally Posted by teke184

you'll really be choking that cam if you don't run headers, so those are something to think about buying
I'd venture to say if you installed the cam and then headers, you'd feel as if the headers gave you more power. For that reverse split grind, you're going to want minimal exhaust back pressure.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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so basically I would benefit more from long tubes than this cam? I just thougt it might be beneficial to get this while I can... is $350 for it a good price considering I need pr's and timing chain?

Thanks alot guys.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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you can definately get the cam before the headers.

just don't be dissappointed when it doesn't perform as well as expected. and when you DO install headers down the road, you'll probably be REALLY satisfied with the boost in power.

it's kindda like this, assuming you start with 320rwhp

LT headers = 335rwhp
the headers will gain you around 15rwhp

manifolds plus cam = 350rwhp
the cam alone will gain you 30rwph if used with stock manifolds

headers + cam = 375rwhp
instead of the 15+30hp and getting 365hp, the two mods together will add up to more end power...375rwhp.
the total gain of 2 mods together, yeilds more power than the sum of the gains of each mod separate.
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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ok, that makes sense... so I guess next question is this, push rods are about 120 from tsp, timing chain I guess was 200 from what Ive been looking at and 918 comp cams springs are incuded, plus a tune (I have no idea how much that might cost) so Im basically looking at about 600+ just to get the cam installed. Long tubes for me would be about 270 plus 160ish for the ORY and whatever else Ill need and do most if not all the work myself, total cost about $450 maybe a little more? I guess Id have to dig prety deep into my pockets either way...
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Re: cam size question

Originally Posted by butterbar
ok, that makes sense... so I guess next question is this, push rods are about 120 from tsp, timing chain I guess was 200 from what Ive been looking at and 918 comp cams springs are incuded, plus a tune (I have no idea how much that might cost) so Im basically looking at about 600+ just to get the cam installed. Long tubes for me would be about 270 plus 160ish for the ORY and whatever else Ill need and do most if not all the work myself, total cost about $450 maybe a little more? I guess Id have to dig prety deep into my pockets either way...
A timing chain is $40, not $200. Go with the LS2 chain, it more than you need.

What long tubes are you getting? The "good" ones? Those are $399 a set- coated Pacesetters. They really are the best bang for the buck in long tubes in my opinion. Make sure you race your car with an open cut-out. The less back pressure you have in your exhast system the better with that reverse split.

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Re: cam size question

Originally Posted by butterbar
ok, that makes sense... so I guess next question is this, push rods are about 120 from tsp, timing chain I guess was 200 from what Ive been looking at and 918 comp cams springs are incuded, plus a tune (I have no idea how much that might cost) so Im basically looking at about 600+ just to get the cam installed. Long tubes for me would be about 270 plus 160ish for the ORY and whatever else Ill need and do most if not all the work myself, total cost about $450 maybe a little more? I guess Id have to dig prety deep into my pockets either way...
Don't forget about poting your oil pump.

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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I'm not a fan of the reverse-split design.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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I'm not a fan of the reverse-split design.
just out of curiosity, why arnt you a fan of the reverse-split?

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by butterbar
just out of curiosity, why arnt you a fan of the reverse-split?

Jared
I've never seen one outperform a split or a single-pattern on an LS1.

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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Re: cam size question

I am about to do a cam swap in my 99' TA (55k miles) and I was wondering how important putting a new oil pump is? Texas Speed has an LS6 one for 130 that they modified, is that would I should get? I have all the springs, pushrods, ls2 timing chain, but not the pump. How important is it and what will it do?

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