Bouncing oil pressure gauge at Idle when warm!
#1
Bouncing oil pressure gauge at Idle when warm!
Hi, I have a 02 z28 and recently have had a problem with my oil pressure bouncing at idle after a drive or when the engine is warm! It bounces between 30ish to 40 rapidly and it annoys the hell out of me..lol. it is about 60 while driving it cold and as expected it decreases as the engine gets warm and than starts bouncing at idle..
I have cleaned the engine with motor flush and also have tried multiple oil changes to try and see if it helps. Am I correct to assume the most likely suspect at this point is the oil pump and not the oil pressure sensor, since it seems to read the pressure correctly and I only get the bouncing at idle?
should I just replace the oil pressure sensor anyways since its an easier/cheaper job?
any help appreciated,
I have cleaned the engine with motor flush and also have tried multiple oil changes to try and see if it helps. Am I correct to assume the most likely suspect at this point is the oil pump and not the oil pressure sensor, since it seems to read the pressure correctly and I only get the bouncing at idle?
should I just replace the oil pressure sensor anyways since its an easier/cheaper job?
any help appreciated,
#3
Re: Bouncing oil pressure gauge at Idle when warm!
Oil pressure cannot fluctuate like you say the gauge is indicating, even with a failed pump or a cavitation issue. You have an electrical issue, most like the sending unit or the gauge itself.
#5
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thats normal. Should be a little below half at idle, and a little above half when driving and romping on it. These gauges move allot, and your coolant temp gauge is dummy gauge its readings arent accurate at all. thank gm
you could have a problem, but im just guessing you have the normal fluctuating gauge.
you could have a problem, but im just guessing you have the normal fluctuating gauge.
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^hmm my v6 and v8 did the same thing. It doesnt move erratically, the pressure just changes from idle and acceleration. Its done the same thing everyday since I owned it. No problems, maybe ill change the sending unit out sometime to see if it helps. But im not worried, no knock, and like I said my v6 did the EXACT same thing, and i put over 40k HARD miles on that.
Howd the oil look last time you changed it, any metal shavings?
EDIT: just re-read the OP, saw rapid changing, sounds like a bad connection or sending unit (hopefully). What I was referring to is when you accelerate the pumps spinning more, causing a higher pressure.
Howd the oil look last time you changed it, any metal shavings?
EDIT: just re-read the OP, saw rapid changing, sounds like a bad connection or sending unit (hopefully). What I was referring to is when you accelerate the pumps spinning more, causing a higher pressure.
Last edited by whitdog54; 03-20-2012 at 09:35 AM.
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alright gentlemen, I finally got around doing it yesterday..space was really tight and got scratched up pretty good but the worst part is even after a new OPSU I still get the fluctuations at idle after the engine has been warmed up or after a long drive. I also took out the cluster panel to see if I could hook up a multimeter to the oil gauge and see if the readings jump up and down but I didnt know the whole thing just plugs into the back and I couldnt figure it out. I ended up just cleaning the plug and blow off any dust to see if that helps, it didnt.
But anyways what do you guys think I should do next? just suck it up and do an oil pump or is there more diagnosing I can do?
thanks again
But anyways what do you guys think I should do next? just suck it up and do an oil pump or is there more diagnosing I can do?
thanks again
#9
Re: Bouncing oil pressure gauge at Idle when warm!
My mustang is doing the same thing. I had to do 2 oil pumps with the engine+pan in the car. so getting the pickup to pump sealed; or pump to block sealed correctly, probably didn't happen. 20k miles on this motor since, and Im not worried.
You could do an oil pump to make sure the o-ring is good and not pinched, but its a lot of work. Maybe wait and do it all as part of a timing chain and cam change, or something.
You could do an oil pump to make sure the o-ring is good and not pinched, but its a lot of work. Maybe wait and do it all as part of a timing chain and cam change, or something.
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would it be a good idea (before you replace the guage), to find somewhere you can tap in and hook up a mechanical one? I recall there is a place near the oil filter.
Google search for instructions. of course, that wouldn't show if there is a pressure differential between just out of the pump, and up near the top end where the stock guage is getting its read.
Google search for instructions. of course, that wouldn't show if there is a pressure differential between just out of the pump, and up near the top end where the stock guage is getting its read.
#12
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here is a good link to a recommendation on how to do.
1/8" Oil Pressure Sender on LS Series - LS2 Forums
1/8" Oil Pressure Sender on LS Series - LS2 Forums
#13
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Checking the oil pressure with a mechanical gauge is a lot of work, and completely unnecessary in this case.
If the needle bounces at the rate of this head shake: you may have a pressure problem.
If the needle bounces faster than this laugh: you have an electrical problem.
If the needle bounces at the rate of this head shake: you may have a pressure problem.
If the needle bounces faster than this laugh: you have an electrical problem.
#14
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Marc, not trying to start an arguement; but why would an electrical or guage issue change how it behaves with a warm engine and thinner oil?
and if he is truely trying to figure out if replacing the pump is necessary, getting a mechanical reading is much less work than that.
and if he is truely trying to figure out if replacing the pump is necessary, getting a mechanical reading is much less work than that.
#15
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The coolant temperature gauge in my 2000 Olds Alero used to do the same thing, only at 210 degrees - it uses a nearly identical stepper motor produced by the same manufacturer.