i was curious if anyone has ever done a AWD conversion on a ls1, not that i want to do it, I just wanted to know how much it helped out

 

i asked my friend about that one time he just kinda stared at me. i forget what he said but it was something like having to put a whole other rear end under ur car because u need the front wheels to move like the back....ive never seen it, pluse it would really weigh ur car down like by however much extra that thing weighs, i soon lost interest after he told me that, probably not worth the money either
but who knows
not me

 

Then comes the obvious problem of where you're gonna squeeze all that drivetrain stuff in the front of an F body. It seems a little too tight to be able to shoe horn some sort of transfer case and a couple of drive shafts in between the engine and the front wheels. Maybe I'm just a pecemist(?sp?).

 

A while back I looked into acuatully doing this. There is a post somewhere out there about it from me. Its possible. Thing were going to have to be changed out and moved around to do it but definitly possible. For the money it was going to cost has much as a really nice down payment on a car. That was just a estimate. Great idea if you ask me and if I had the money I would do it still. Performance gains would be just outright insane.

 

it is but it isnt...

depends on how much money you have..

the way our cars are setup now it wouldnt work..

but for 50 grand.. hey anything is possible

 

chevy's toy box has an awd ls1 powered grand prix! seen it on some special!

 

Doin an AWD Grand Prix is a hell of a lot easier than an f-body, since its fwd now.

How are you goin to put a front axle and transfer case on an f-body? have you ever looked under one?

It would take a lot of time and money

 

The awd GP is called the G8. And since the Aztec is built on a GP chassis I would imagine you could use those parts to do it. Also the Australian Holden that the GTO is going to be based on is available in Australia as an awd LS1 but it is not a good awd system like the Subaru's have. The Subaru is set up to work as a rwd until there is traction loss then the front comes on. The holden/G8/aztec system is biased towards the front. I would think the best way to do an awd ls1 would be to get a awd bravada or astro van with a 4.3 and convert to ls1. These two use the same awd system that the syclone/typhoon used and would have awesome performance potential. Maybe this is why the japaneze love the astro vans for mods?

 

Like Phantom said probably not a good idea but for the right amount of money it would work. As to the above quote. in an AWD car there is still only one drive shaft,( that is to the rear wheels the engine itself directly powers the front wheels through a differnetial. It is not all too much heavier, using the right parts of course.

 

jeez i thought you meant ls1 into an awd car at first......

that being said, wouldnt it be way easier to put an ls1 into a subaro wrx (engine would be halfway out of the hood), audi, or better yet, a dodge stealth???

 

oh joe,joe,joe.....
hey man ive seen it done... tell u bout it tommorow when i see u...
*** for the rest of u illl try to give u a quick summary...

i always look through custo,classic,sportscar trader magazine...and about a year ago i saw a green 93 z28 raised about 8 inches... with big tires... i called the guy for the hell of it to see why its raised and ****... he told me it was 4 wheel drive and he was sellin it for about 9 grand...

anyways its funny u mention a stealth... cuz joe(stik6shift00) sold his red dodge stealth twin turbo two weeks ago

anyways thats what ive seen...

to do this right it would take lots of money..
ive seen a geo tracker chassis with 4wd with a geo metro body on it too... now that was a waste of money... a geo metro 4wd...lol


lata

 

The amount that was quote for it to be done was going to be 15-20 grand for the setup. They would have to rework the major of parts in the car. The car wasn't going to way that much more. As far as lifted ? Not a single bit. There was a problem if we were going to go with the Aztec all wheel drive system...It wasn't build to handle the power of the Fbody. Traction would be so much better if it hooked up right. Seems to me thats what Fbodys really lack traction. Imagtion if all of your cars high horsepower or not hooked every single time. It would definitly make things better the power would be better sent to the wheels you probably would have wheel spin still but it would be alot less


Seth

 

Wouldn't it be alot cheaper to just get a 12 bolt, lca's, decent clutch, and street slicks? You should have incredible traction then, for around 3-4k. AWD systems also come at the cost of more drivetrain loss. It would be much more reasonable to go with the route above. Handling also would still be great depending upon what type of tires you decided to go with.

 

UHmmmm ok... the subarus system .... maybe you should read this- http://www.autospeed.com/A_1536/page1.html

 

Yup, the subaru's for sure. The new holden system may be alright for rock crawling but you would'nt want any breaking of the wheels while flying around corners. Besides this braking of the slipping wheels has been used for years in the benz suv. It's a great system but can't compare to the audi's or subarus for performance purposes. The ideal awd for track/rally racing is a system that will act and really be a rwd until traction loss is experienced, then shift power to the front. I'm afraid that at speed the holdens you've linked would corner like crap. Even if the system is disabled at speed your still left with 3 open differentials which is ok, but can't be compared to more performance oriented non suv type awd systems like the subaru. I enjoyed the link though.