lt1stroker

I am thinking of trading my "383" stroker 96 Z in for a 112,xxx 1996 camaro Z. You guys think even if i lose money, i will save more money in the long run with a stock camaro with papers? Thanks

Counted Out

You're going to trade a 383 for a regular LT1?

Sounds brilliant.

And what do you mean a stock Camaro with papers? Did you buy your car with no title?

lt1stroker

^ No i didnt buy the car with no title. Papers i mean like engine papers, tranny papers, etc. Many of the users know my situation so thats why i asked the question. Heres the situation: I bought a 1996 Camaro Z28 "383" Stroker about two weeks ago. the owner didnt have any papers to prove that the engine has a 383 or even rebuilt.The car has 216,xxx on the body but supposebly only 16k on the rebuilt engine. i being an idiot bought the car for 7500. Now im regreting that i bought the car.

Counted Out

And trading it away for a regular LT1 will make it better? I know your situation. And although you may not have prove, you can still have someone look at the car and let you know exactly what you have. And that's what really matters.

You keep quoting the 383 and saying you don't believe him, but in reality you could very well have a 383 stroker. But you seem to be too lazy to find out.

Capn Pete

Dyno the car. It would probably be cheaper and easier, and that will give you a pretty clear idea of exactly how much power, and more importantly torque the engine is making . The only other way to know "for sure" is to tear into the engine, which I'm sure you don't want to do. So how else do you verify the power of the engine?? Dyno .

Seriously, do it!

Dealing with the b.s. of buying and selling is a hassle, especially over a petty issue like a few extra miles, and you're going for the same year of the same car anyway!?

I personally wouldn't be so hung up about the resale value?

wildweasel

I'll trade you your Z for my wife's 99 Ford Escort sport. I can guarentee that it's got a two liter SOHC engine. And I know for a fact that the chasis AND the motor have 134,000 miles. This way you can have peace of mind, and sleep at night. I also have a 26 inch bicycle that is definately broken if you want that instead. Nothing like knowing what you've got.

shoebox

You could pull the oil pan off and see what you've got (though it won't make it run any faster).

Counted Out

Point, set, and match.

IRONFIST

Trading a car that could be a 383, for pretty much an identical car that you know is for sure not a 383 makes no sense to me at all man...
At the very least your car is as good as the one you want to trade for, and it may very likely be much better.....
So no, that's not a smart trade.

ENRKyle20

DYNO IT.. like someone else said. Its ALOT cheaper than you think. I paid $60 for 6 pulls!

Jazsun

Spend the 150$ take it to a performance shop and they will be able to tell you if its a 383, assuming they have seen LT1's before.

sbs

I think I speak for many people in the LTx tech forums when I say "no" you shouldn't do this trade. You should instead trade for something that doesn't' have an LTx engine...

Counted Out

At first I thought you were ripping the LT1 but now I get it.

Billy Biker

Honestly its really so easy to use one of the many ways suggested to find out what you have.....why not just put out the effort and do it? You've already said you're car is fast...if its running good and is not a beat to hell rolling wreck inside and out, its prolly had work done. If you actually paid 7500 for it it must at least look decent right? And if its had some work done the original mileage isn't going to really apply anymore. And if its all original with 216.000 miles on it you would have known the minute you test drove it. 216,000 mile LT1 camaros don't exist except as rebuilds or parts cars. If you want a fast camaro be prepared to work on it. If you don't have the energy or motivation to even get your current car checked out, maybe you should get the stock Z and leave it stock and just cruise it...or get out of the fast car business. Maintaining a car you plan on taking to the strip and running hard in general is going to involve commitment. Honestly if you don't have the motivation to even get your Z checked out are you sure you have the motivation and desire to do the steady work/maintainence its going to take to keep it fast and together? You might want to evaluate the whole car thing before you keep stumbling around in here. These guys are a bunch of SERIOUS performance freaks.....they'll help you as long as your SERIOUS about your questions and what you want out of your car

EnFuegoZ28

As many problems as you have been having with the car since you got it you really need to take it and have it gone over from bumper to bumber by someone who is familiar with the LT1. As far as the trade I say no. You made the investment to buy the car, at least get it checked out before you give up on it. That way you have a better idea on what has been done to it and what needs to be done. Also re-read the above post. It is dead on.