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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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yes. too much oil can case problems. I would jus stick to regualr 12 ounce cans of 134A and be safe. but 3 ounces "should" be ok. but no more
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by HBHRacing
yes. too much oil can case problems. I would jus stick to regualr 12 ounce cans of 134A and be safe. but 3 ounces "should" be ok. but no more
ok, so do u htink i should use one of these cans of refirgerant the kit came with? the 15 oz 12 oz of refrigerant and 3 oz of oil, then add another 12 oz can of refrigerant or however manyh i need to fill it? just pure refrigerant without the oil after the 3 oz of oil i furst put in? sound right? thanks.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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yeah. the 3 pounces shold be ok. just use nothing but 134a after that first can
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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yeah. the 3 pounces shold be ok. just use nothing but 134a after that first can
badn ews. just went out to add some. checked the pressure with the gauge it said 0. started to add some then i added about half the can if that. pressure guage was at 65????? started the car and turned the ac on. got a noise coming from the compressor. it blew cool air for a lil bit. then i could smell the freon coming out and i could see it coming out in the engine bay. looked like it was from the compressor dont know for sure. looked at teh compressor as it was making noise and saw thtat the clutch kept getting in a bind and wouldnt spin freely like its suposed to. what is up with that? i only added about half the can not much at all and the pressur reading is at 65 degrees. the cluthc isnt spinning right on the compressor im dont know what to do??? im scared i damaged something and ihope i didnt. is there anywayh to make this compressor spin right? it hasnt spun in a hwlie cuz i havent been able to use the a/c since winter. the freon looked like it was coming from the bakc of the compressor. it was like white vapor and ic ould smell it. i dont know what to do. it blew cool air for a lilttle bit as the compressor was making that noise and not spnning freely. it woulc liike catch on a bind and try to spin some and it would spin a lil then bind itself again. is it ****ed? let me know asap. pleas i need help!
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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sounds like either you broke the mainfold line on the back of the compresor or maybe a high pressure valve. you need to get back there and see whats up. if it;s that bad of a leak you should be able to see it b just adding freon with teh car off...


what ever it is it;s a bad bad leak and need to start there. usualy a bad compressor will not leak out that fast so I doubt thats it but it could still be bad but you need to track down the leak first..
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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sounds like either you broke the mainfold line on the back of the compresor or maybe a high pressure valve. you need to get back there and see whats up. if it;s that bad of a leak you should be able to see it b just adding freon with teh car off...


what ever it is it;s a bad bad leak and need to start there. usualy a bad compressor will not leak out that fast so I doubt thats it but it could still be bad but you need to track down the leak first..
so u dont think its the compressor? but why would the compressor make the abnormal noise and the clutch get in a bind and not spin when the a/c is on. i think since u said one of the lines on the compressor or high pressure valve is leaking then that wouldnt give the compressor enough pressure to spin the clutch freelY? is that it? it also kind of sounded like it was sucking in air the abnormal noise? and the white vapor smell o freon looked like it was coming from the back of the compressor not the front. and when i added the freon witht he car off it didnt leak out wiht the white vapor till i started the car and turned the a/c on. i also hcecked the pressur agian a sec ago and it was still 65 so i took the gage i have and used the needle to release someo fthe pressure so it is now back to 45 psi. i think the guage is a POS beause my a/c still doesnt work and ionly added about half the can in and the compressor isnt turnning on now. when it had some in there it would turn on annd make the noise while the clutch not spinning right. i dont knwo what to do now because i kind of just blew 30 bucks and my a/c still doesnt work, and im scared i broke something and its gong to be expensive to replace or fix. im pissed.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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if it;s not leaking out now then the hole is on the discharge (high) side.... the compressor will not function correctly if there is an open in the system so start there.

have a buddy help you. jack the car up. get to where you can see the hoses at the back of teh compressor. then have him turn it on. find and fix the leak. then we can go from there
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by HBHRacing
if it;s not leaking out now then the hole is on the discharge (high) side.... the compressor will not function correctly if there is an open in the system so start there.

have a buddy help you. jack the car up. get to where you can see the hoses at the back of teh compressor. then have him turn it on. find and fix the leak. then we can go from there
so u think it son the high side? the compreessor isnt workign right at all. it will mke the noise when it idd come on and the cluthc would just lock itslef like its in a bind and and it owuld spin about one turn then stop and sof roth and eventually it just quit working all together as i could see the white vapopr and smell the freon coming out. where would the open in the system be on the high pressure side. i thought u wernt supposed to tocuh that at all cuz of the high pressure. how would i fix the leak. like just say it is on the back of the compresso rsomehwere how would i fix the leaks? would it make the compressor work righ tagain. clutch spin like its supose dto? thanks man. i will try to look but not sure if i can fix it.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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your just gonna have to see where it;s leaking from. could be the hose assembly.. could be the comprssor, could be the blow off valve etc etc etc. you will just have to run it and see..

step 1. find the leak
step 2 empy the freon
step 3. fix the leak
step 4 try it again and see what happnes
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by HBHRacing
your just gonna have to see where it;s leaking from. could be the hose assembly.. could be the comprssor, could be the blow off valve etc etc etc. you will just have to run it and see..

step 1. find the leak
step 2 empy the freon
step 3. fix the leak
step 4 try it again and see what happnes
i want to ask you first if u have aim or aol. my sn is eac95z28. we can talk taht way if ur can and not busy.

i went back out there and hooked up the can of freon again and the psi wa sstill 45 psi after i let some pressure out. i started the car. a/c compressor wasnt turning and it was blowing woamr ait. thatss fine. i started to just add a litttle bit to it and pressur rose from 45 to about 50 psi. clutch kicked on and it l had my eye on it the whole time. i stopped letting freon in by closing the tap valve. clutch kicke d on and it spun about 3 times around the compressor looked loose and rattled and then after the 3rd rotatino it locked and got in the bind. made the noise i have been talking about. i quickly shut off the a/c and released the prssure back to 45 psi. looked at my passenger side exhaust manfiold and i could see wet spots of i think where the freon sprayed. looked down by the rear of the compressor and i could see more wet spots on where the crossmember bolts onto the car. so it ihnk it is spraying from the back of the compressor thus the white vapor and the smell. i think i remember smelling the sme thing b4 my a/c went out that day this past winter. then it just quit. a/c compressor never used to do this (clutch rattling looking loose while spinning and then locking itself in a bind). neever did this b4 as the a/c worked fine. i do believe there is the leak in the back of the ocmpressor. havnet jacked it up to see yet but i will try to today. if i fix the leak somehow will it fix the clutch on the compressor from lockin gup in that bind it does? its kind of like since it leaks out theres not enough pressure held for the compressor's clutch to spin freely and therefore spins some then locks itself in a bind and makes this noise like letting air out or freon out. i dont want this to be costly but it ihink it is oging to be and a paint in the ***. i might take it to someone and have them check it out and see. i can live without a/c i have for so long my cars never had it b4 but it just bothers me that it was workign fine one day an djust quit the next. this is going to be my car for a long time and i wanted to make sure everything works fine just like the a/c. plus when it rains its hell and it has rained here lately and been hot and humid. sometimes i cant stand the heat in the car. it sucks really bad.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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when the ac is off and a full chagre is in the low side will read up to around 120 PSI.. thats normal. when the compressor comes on it will lower to about 45. so don;t worry if you see mnore then 45 when the ac is off. thats fine
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by HBHRacing
when the ac is off and a full chagre is in the low side will read up to around 120 PSI.. thats normal. when the compressor comes on it will lower to about 45. so don;t worry if you see mnore then 45 when the ac is off. thats fine
oh ok. cuz on the guage i have 45 psi is filled and 65 psi is alert and antyhing above 65 psi to 200 psi it is wanring. when my compressor comes on the pressure doesnt really chacnge cuz the compressors not working right. do you have aim? im me at eac95z28 thanks.
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