im guessing a mid 90's prelude....i have a 96 SS full bolt on headers exhaust intake with a medium cam 1.6 RR and such....dynoed with tune at around 360 rwhp i believe....now my buddy keeps gettin on me about racing his prelude 5spd....he has h22 vtec JDM motor swap, top mount manifold, garret t25, bov, greddy wastegate at 14psi, downpipe,fidenza flywheel, big cone filter, 3 inch turboback, nitrous express 100 shot....lets say with or without the bottle.....i really have NO clue what kind of track numbers this would put down so honestly i have no idea who would win....i have not yet to ride in his car so....any ideas?

 

Hmm. This could be an interesting run. Don't underestimate this guy, especially with that nitrous shot he has in reserve. Your main advantage here is that the Prelude is likely to suck coming out of the hole.

 

yeah thats what i figured...

 

I love it... We are comparing a car that is mostly stock to another car that has a completly different drivetrain than it originally came with.

Why these import tuner guys are inclined to go through so much trouble to make a car fast is beyond me. Then after they blow tons of cash, they are still stuck with the ultra gay front wheel drive in a "performance" car.

Bottom line, his car is too modified to begin to guess who would win. It all depends on how well his car is built and tuned. It might be close, he may beat you, you may beat him but the import still gets the idiot award for dumping so much effort into a FWD platform that was intended from day 1 to be a sporty economy car. The F-body was designed to be competative from birth so you have a giant head start on him right there.

Sorry about the rant.

 

I took on an accord with about the same mods, I'm not sure of his internals but i saw the big friggin turbo he had on it... We were on the highway, not the track. He pulled on me untill I hit 4th, then i stayed a couple car legnths ahead untill about 135 when we stopped.

Edit: and yeah, it was an h22 but no NO2 shot

Edit again: and that was before my intake bolt ons, just had catback.

 

I guess the definition of "mostly stock" is subjective. I wouldn't consider a car with full bolt ons and a cam swap mostly stock. To me thats not even close anymore, especially because of the cam.


They do it because it is cheap. It doesn't take alot of money to pick up so old beat *** Honda, and do a motor swap. Motor swaps in Hondas are alot cheaper than some of you guys seem to think they are, and the turbos for a Honda are much less expensive than the turbos for an LT1 fbody.

It is still fwd though; something I would never want in any car I own.


If the Prelude gets out of the hole well enough, my money is probably on him, especially if he sprays.

The fbody may have been designed to be competitive (back in 1982), but there are still compromises to it. It is far from perfect. I would much prefer it over a fwd econobox, but it is not like the fbody is the purpose built form follows function racecar.

 

If he can drive that thing and get it to hook with all that power at the front wheels, he can probably give you a run for your money. In any event, it will be a good race.

 

thanks all i appreciate all the comments...i really don't know what is gonna happen...ive yet to ride in the car bc he is not out yet....it will be intresting but i don't really wanna race him with the 100 shot....

 

I really don't think you're going to have a problem.

 

Don't know how the JDM H22 differs form the USDM version, if there is even any but my friend's Prelude came with 200hp. The car is no lightweight however, and weighs around 3100 lbs. He might be pushing almost 300hp with his set-up without the nitrous, depending how far he got into it. Still, even lowballing it at 260 at the wheels you're going to have some issues if he hits the nitrous as he might have the same power as you but with 300 lbs less.

From a roll he'll probaly pull you good, but like everyone else has said if he trys to launch the thing he'll be spinning through the first couple of gears so you may have a chance.


Plus it's honda horsepower so it's only 3/4 as good as GM hp.

Good luck.

 

Now that's what I'm talking about. If it sounds like a weed whacker, it cant be any faster then a weed whacker.

 

 

i hate to say it but i think he has you with the nitrous. and i think what tracez ment was an N/A against a 14psi turbo

 

That is what I meant by "mostly stock".

Stock block, pistons, rods and crank

Stock heads

stock fuel injection / induction (no turbo / nitrous / supercharger)


This import econo-sport car has none of these items stock.


If I wanted to bolt a 500 hp turbocharged powerplant in a Yugo using no original parts I could. It would be the exact same thing. What a dream car, huh.

 

for what its worth, I used to have a 97 (newest body style) prelude SH 5spd with full bolt ons and a jackson racing supercharger that showed 8lbs on the gauge and I put down 240whp. I only turned high 13's at the track in Bristol, TN. Then, I got my TA with 3.73s, CAI and magnaflow exhaust only and stomped it. The japanese h22 only offers around 20hp more than the usdm one, but it does it by more aggressive cams and higher compression which sucks for his boost. I'd guess he is around 280-300whp plus the 100 shot. He has to have the engine modified too if he's running 14psi and a 100 shot because those crappy engines only support either around 10psi or a 75 shot generally on the stock internals. Give yourself your own 100 shot and show him who his daddy is. Then, go on and on about how yours sounds better and was a hell of a lot cheaper. lol