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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Re: No contest...

those 4V cobras sure do respond to nitrous well...thats all i have to say
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

96-98 Cobra is faster then a LT1 w/ the right driver...LS1 will kill both
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Re: No contest...

Originally Posted by robvas
No LT1 will trap 107 mph. There's no way.
Just reporting what was in the article.

Evan Smith, the guy who drove it, did that run powershifted and with a cool-down. Smith is well-known in the 5.0 liter world for his driving abilities. He is also the guy who drove the first 1998 LS1 Camaro into the 12's on stock tires.
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

Yeah, that was the way underrated LT4 SS. I'd take a stock LT4 over a stock LS1 any day..
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by robvas
It's not possible. It'd have to be the 330hp LT4 SS.
It was not the LT4. It was The 1996 LT1 Camaro SS. I have the issue of the magazine right in front of me. No mention anywhere in the article - which is several pages long - about the LT4.

Specs on the engine - word for word - from page 41, May/'96 High Tech Performance:


Rated Horsepower: 305HP @ 5500 RPM*
Rated Torque: 335 lbs-ft. @ 2400 RPM

*The Performance Exhaust System increases rated output to 310HP @ 5500 RPM. Our SS Camaro was so equipped.


And from the last paragraph on page 39 of the same story:

More evolutionary than revolutionary, the pushrod LT1 engine seems very satisfied to make gobs of torque the old-fashioned way.

The above is also word for word.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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generally a good running stock 6spd Lt1 will run aroun 101 stock maybe 102...A 96-98 cobra w/ a good driver that knows how properly shift the cars usually runs in the 103-104 area stock
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ
generally a good running stock 6spd Lt1 will run aroun 101 stock maybe 102...A 96-98 cobra w/ a good driver that knows how properly shift the cars usually runs in the 103-104 area stock
what are you smoking?

A stock 96-98 Cobra certainly does not trap that high. Should be right around 100-102 range at most.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

Originally Posted by marzen
I would say 96-98 Cobras are right on par with LT1s performance wise. In most cases they are a good deal more expensive, and doing any internal mod (ie cams) is going to run you an arm and a leg, with minimal gains.

The LS1 is more potent that both.....

I would say stock RWHP is around

96-98 Cobra...250-260 rwhp
93-97 LT1....250-275 rwhp
98+ LS1....285-310rwhp

I thought that was at the flywheel ??
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

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I thought that was at the flywheel ??
Nope at the wheels
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Re: No contest...

Originally Posted by robvas
Where's Johnny Hunkins when you need him.

Could you scan the article and host it on Imageshack?
I don't have a scanner, but I'll see what I can do.

The 3 guys who penned the story are John Hunkins, who was the 'technical editor' at the time (remember, this was before the magazine was called GM High Tech Performance. Back then, it was called simply 'High Tech Performance, and featured Ford Mustangs and the like as well as GM products.) Richard Lentinello, who was editor in chief, and Evan Smith, associate editor. The story is 7 pages long, and titled Road Rockets.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

It was not the LT4. It was The 1996 LT1 Camaro SS. I have the issue of the magazine right in front of me. No mention anywhere in the article - which is several pages long - about the LT4.
Oddly enough if it is the same article that I have seen before when they compared the 1996 SS, WS6 T/A, and Cobra. The WS6 they tested didn't get out of the 14s. Someone please explain that. There is only one explanation, GM sent over a ringer. You're fooling yourself if you don't accept this. I know Evan is a great driver, but why is it no one else has ever replicated those times, or MPH for an LT1? BTW: Evan isn't the only one to break 12s with an LS1, so that can't be what you're hinging your argument on.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

FOUND IT!
http://www.stangbangers.com/96_Cobra...rd_Article.htm
This isn't the same article you're referring to, but I think this may have been a ringer press car that was being passed around in 1996. There is no logical explanation as to why one LT1 would run .5, and 5 mph better than another with the same driver, same track, options, trans, gears, etc.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

Ls1's whoopem. But just like anything else some Cobra's run beter then others.
Cobra's, providing they have a good driver,should trap between to 99-103. My first LT1" Auto" only trapped 98MPH but my Camaro trapped 101 stock.

A 5 speed Cobra would beat most stock auto LT1's.
Just take one of each for a test drive. The LS1 will win you over.
I raced a 98 Cobra on DR's in my LS1 first day I took it to the track and I beat him BADLY! He pulled a 1.9 sixty and smoked me off the line But I caught his Azzz FAST and pasted him like he was sitting stiil.
He ran a 13.8 vs my 13.2 his 102 VS my 108.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

BTW, I was stock and he wasnt.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Re: 96-98 cobra vs. LT1 and LS1

LS1 or LT1. Can't go wrong with either powerhouse. If you have the money I would definitely go with the LS, but if funds are limited get the LT.

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