6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
Over the past few months, I have built a BioDiesel processor to make fuel for my '85 6.2L Chevy C20 Pickup. I've been able to make fuel for just under 50 cents per gallon.
Now that the summer season is knocking on our doorstep, I find myself wanting the crisp handling and brisk acceleration of my '02 WS6, but these insane gas prices make it less enjoyable.
I've been thinking of trying to find an early 4th gen M6 F-body as a candidate for a diesel swap.
For those unfamiliar with the GM diesels, they share the same engine mounts, bellhousing bolt pattern, and exhaust manifold outlet locations as a small block chevy. My biggest concerns with such a swap is the considerably larger oil pan on the 6.2/6.5, the fact that the engine is a little wider than a small block chevy, and that the 6.2/6.5 engines are about 300 lbs heavier than a small block.
I think if these obstacles could be overcome, it could make a nice package. The diesels get low 20's MPG highway in the brick-shaped pickups weighing 5000+ lbs, I would think in a sleek, aerodynamic F-body they could do considerably better. A warmed over 6.2L is capable of 200HP and over 300 Lb/Ft without too much trouble, and when a turbo is added, you can get considerably more.
So what do you guys think??
Now that the summer season is knocking on our doorstep, I find myself wanting the crisp handling and brisk acceleration of my '02 WS6, but these insane gas prices make it less enjoyable.
I've been thinking of trying to find an early 4th gen M6 F-body as a candidate for a diesel swap.
For those unfamiliar with the GM diesels, they share the same engine mounts, bellhousing bolt pattern, and exhaust manifold outlet locations as a small block chevy. My biggest concerns with such a swap is the considerably larger oil pan on the 6.2/6.5, the fact that the engine is a little wider than a small block chevy, and that the 6.2/6.5 engines are about 300 lbs heavier than a small block.
I think if these obstacles could be overcome, it could make a nice package. The diesels get low 20's MPG highway in the brick-shaped pickups weighing 5000+ lbs, I would think in a sleek, aerodynamic F-body they could do considerably better. A warmed over 6.2L is capable of 200HP and over 300 Lb/Ft without too much trouble, and when a turbo is added, you can get considerably more.
So what do you guys think??
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
Sickens you?! What on earth for?? The 6.2 puts out more power than a v6 F-Body, and you have the added benefit of giving a big 'ole F-you to the middle east and the big oil companies......
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
Originally Posted by WS Sick
I think if you turboed it the big black cloud on WOT and noise would be a sight!!
I think its a neat project.
I think its a neat project.
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
I think it would be cool. You said you wanted the handling of the f-body though...with an extra 300lbs up front it isn't going to handle to well since the weight split will be off.
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
As far as the 300 lbs, I figured some higher rate springs and better struts would be in order. A bigger concern, other than just handling, is whether or not the front end hardware (a-arms, K-member, etc) would be up to the task of handling the extra weight.
However, I figured that an F-body might be better in this respect than a B or G body, since the engine placement in the chassis is alot farther back on an F-body.
However, I figured that an F-body might be better in this respect than a B or G body, since the engine placement in the chassis is alot farther back on an F-body.
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
That would just be badass hearing a big turbo spool and a big black cloud coming out would be awesome. Not to mention giant slick melting torque. Would be a hell of a burnout mobile! Are you talking about the duramax diesels? I know the newer diesels make INSANE power with modifications. Like 600 HP and around a 1000 lb ft of torque!
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
for the cost involved, it just doesn't seem worth it. The tranny wouldnt take the torque and the rear end would leave pieces everywhere.
So youre looking into a engine, tranny, rear end, custom driveshaft, new gas tank? fuel lines, wiring, suspension mods, etc. Seems really expensive to me, and quite time consuming
So youre looking into a engine, tranny, rear end, custom driveshaft, new gas tank? fuel lines, wiring, suspension mods, etc. Seems really expensive to me, and quite time consuming
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Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
i say do it...
matter of fact...
i think you should put a turbo duramax in there...
what we talkin? 700lb ft of torque with a $500 turbo chip!!
and $.50 a gallon?
um.... i would be extremely impressed
matter of fact...
i think you should put a turbo duramax in there...
what we talkin? 700lb ft of torque with a $500 turbo chip!!
and $.50 a gallon?
um.... i would be extremely impressed
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
that could possibly make the magazines
some diesels are making SUPER insane power
killer torque
you'd need a good stout rear and gear box
the torque is insane
custom oil pan no doubt
some diesels are making SUPER insane power
killer torque
you'd need a good stout rear and gear box
the torque is insane
custom oil pan no doubt
Re: 6.2/6.5 Diesel in 4th Gen F-body?
Read my sig - I already give a big F to the mideast, with 50+ mpg in a daily driver, so I'm right there with that.
I just envision an F-body sitting like a late-60s early-70s Mopar, with it's butt 30 inches off the ground and the nose plowing into the Earth, with a huge cloud of black smoke pouring out of the exhaust.
I understand your motiviation, and I know what you can do with a diesel for power (at low revs, anyway), but the added weight completely ruins the driving dynamic as you now have a 70/30 front-rear weight distribution on a rear-drive car, thus negating the handling. The rule of diminishing returns...good luck if you decide to do it, though!
I just envision an F-body sitting like a late-60s early-70s Mopar, with it's butt 30 inches off the ground and the nose plowing into the Earth, with a huge cloud of black smoke pouring out of the exhaust.
I understand your motiviation, and I know what you can do with a diesel for power (at low revs, anyway), but the added weight completely ruins the driving dynamic as you now have a 70/30 front-rear weight distribution on a rear-drive car, thus negating the handling. The rule of diminishing returns...good luck if you decide to do it, though!


