What you guys think about this kit?
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What you guys think about this kit?
93-97 LT1 F-body kit W/ no Intercooler and MPT-70 with .96A/R
$3700 for this entire kit.
http://www.forcedinductions.com/GMkits2.htm
It's off that website.
How do you think it fairs against the STS system at 5psi? Because thats all I want to run once I get it dynotuned. I'm looking to run low 12's safely and roughly 400rwhp/torque. Right now I have a brand new valvetrain but totally stock bottom end. (Heads were shaved a tad for clearance issues) The cam I chose is a XE 227/233 on a 114LSA (560/569 lift).
I was told I should be at about 10.42 :1 compression since shaving the heads a tad doesn't raise compression much.
120k on the clock, I am going to check the compression on the engine before I make the purchase, and if it checks out... I want to get it. What do you guys think?
Also, I plan on dropping the compression with a brand new forged bottom end hopefully within 15-20k.
$3700 for this entire kit.
http://www.forcedinductions.com/GMkits2.htm
It's off that website.
How do you think it fairs against the STS system at 5psi? Because thats all I want to run once I get it dynotuned. I'm looking to run low 12's safely and roughly 400rwhp/torque. Right now I have a brand new valvetrain but totally stock bottom end. (Heads were shaved a tad for clearance issues) The cam I chose is a XE 227/233 on a 114LSA (560/569 lift).
I was told I should be at about 10.42 :1 compression since shaving the heads a tad doesn't raise compression much.
120k on the clock, I am going to check the compression on the engine before I make the purchase, and if it checks out... I want to get it. What do you guys think?
Also, I plan on dropping the compression with a brand new forged bottom end hopefully within 15-20k.
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Re: What you guys think about this kit?
PTK > STS....the only benefit you would get buying the STS over that PTK complete kit is ease of install.
The price of the PTK complete kit is killer, you'll make great power and you can always do like the STS and add methanol injection to help with detonation. Or you can buy an inexpensive intercooler off of ebay and have that fabbed up.
The price of the PTK complete kit is killer, you'll make great power and you can always do like the STS and add methanol injection to help with detonation. Or you can buy an inexpensive intercooler off of ebay and have that fabbed up.
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Re: What you guys think about this kit?
Let me clarify.
Not saying that you won't make nearly the same numbers on that low of boost with both kits....you will.
But base kit to base kit....the PTK has more potential before having to upgrade the turbo.
Either way you go you will get the numbers you are looking for....personally I would go with the PTK.
Not saying that you won't make nearly the same numbers on that low of boost with both kits....you will.
But base kit to base kit....the PTK has more potential before having to upgrade the turbo.
Either way you go you will get the numbers you are looking for....personally I would go with the PTK.
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Re: What you guys think about this kit?
That is generally considered to be the best turbo kit available. It can be upgraded to 1200 hp with the same hot parts.
It'll make more power and have less lag than STS, but also be much more difficult to install.
Mike
It'll make more power and have less lag than STS, but also be much more difficult to install.
Mike
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From: Brockton, Ma
Re: What you guys think about this kit?
Originally Posted by Eric Bazan
Its a 3-6 month wait for the PTK kit, though. So, be prepared to wait a while.
Laters,
Eric
Laters,
Eric
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Re: What you guys think about this kit?
Power levels at 5psi will be very similar.
PTK is like installing a set of headers/ypipe. Requires you fab between the downpipe they give you to your catback exhaust (a few bends).
Install isnt all that bad, espicially if you've done a lt1 cam swap in car. I'd say get an intercooler and fab the lines, or buy the intercooled kit. I did it that way with my gen1 kit because I wanted things in specific spots under the hood. I'm **** that way.
PTK is like installing a set of headers/ypipe. Requires you fab between the downpipe they give you to your catback exhaust (a few bends).
Install isnt all that bad, espicially if you've done a lt1 cam swap in car. I'd say get an intercooler and fab the lines, or buy the intercooled kit. I did it that way with my gen1 kit because I wanted things in specific spots under the hood. I'm **** that way.
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Re: What you guys think about this kit?
Kit wait times are 2-3 months right now. Heck I even have a LS1 kit on the shelf....hehe.
As for performance, well....I leave that up to you guys to decide. You can read some of our results and some customer results on our site as well....here is a quote from a customer of ours and his rear mount friend..
Here is another post a few days later...
Jose
As for performance, well....I leave that up to you guys to decide. You can read some of our results and some customer results on our site as well....here is a quote from a customer of ours and his rear mount friend..
Hey Jose this is Caleb. I bought a PTK system for my T/A last year from you. First of all thanks for everything, you are the only dealer that knew more about turbo's then the turbo companies themselves . I wanted to give you an update on the system. I went from a T-trim blower like I told you before. I made 447rwhp and 399rwtq at 8psi with the stock motor and all the bolt-ons. I put the PTK system on and with the same 8psi and the PT67 I made 481rwhp and 576rwtq. All I can say is WOW , this thing kicks butt and on pump gas to boost. My buddy went the turbo route as well and went with a 67 also but using a smaller turbine housing. He ended up running one of those rear mount setups, but it spools alot slower then my system does and falls off sooner on the top end. We run from a roll with both of us at 8psi and its no contest . From a 30mph punch I pull 3-4 cars to 100.. . We both have the same basic bolt-ons but I guess his system is maybe peakier. Anyhow, I want to add an electronic boost controller to the system. Will the turbosmart eboost hook up to the tial wastegate??? Also if my buddy and I both purchase one any chance you can hook us up with a little discount . Also I don't get on here much, so call me if you can if not I will try to call you nex week sometime.
Caleb
Caleb
Here is another post a few days later...
Well ,I was able to make it out to the track last night with my buddy. We went to beat up on some of the local rustangs . We ended up grudge match racing each other more then anything. He kept killing me at the light since I suck at this, but I kept coming around him on the top end. . Anyhow here are our timeslips on our best run. Both of us are at 8psi with T67's and stock motors with bolts, so we are even except for the turbo systems. His car dynoed about 50rwhp less .
Anyhow
him
rt-.581
60ft-1.81
660ft-7.57@96.42
1/4-11.66@119.6
me
rt-.977
60ft-1.88
660ft- 7.44@99.80
1/4- 11.49@124.7
I kept losing to him at the light. I just can't get it down into the 5's like he can. But I was able to pull him hard up top everytime we got in 3rd and 4th gear where the turbos are loaded. One thing I did want to ask was, he is using meth injection. Will that help my setup as well?? Does it matter that his is rear mount turbo and mine is front mount?? Anyhow thanks for the help.
Caleb
Anyhow
him
rt-.581
60ft-1.81
660ft-7.57@96.42
1/4-11.66@119.6
me
rt-.977
60ft-1.88
660ft- 7.44@99.80
1/4- 11.49@124.7
I kept losing to him at the light. I just can't get it down into the 5's like he can. But I was able to pull him hard up top everytime we got in 3rd and 4th gear where the turbos are loaded. One thing I did want to ask was, he is using meth injection. Will that help my setup as well?? Does it matter that his is rear mount turbo and mine is front mount?? Anyhow thanks for the help.
Caleb
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