Just posting props for Bell Intercoolers. I just received my new water/air unit from Bell. It's custom sized and built for my application: core dimensions, nozzle size and locations, water nipple size and locations, even mounting tabs. It arrived today, a scant 5 days after getting the design details straightened out. I must say, the quality of workmanship is outstanding. And, considering the design and custom fab as well as the size, the price was reasonable.

If you need a custom intercooler, call 'em up and ask for Gerhard.

By the way, my Vortech aftercooler that I made 680 rwhp with is up for sale.

Mike

 

this post is useless without pics...POST EM!

 

What size is the core on it compared to the Vortech?
How much power is it rated for?
And where are you putting it at?

 

mw, I'm not telling you, lest you might decide not to buy my Vortech unit. . .

But for everyone else. . . the new Bell intercooler core is 20" x 4.5" x 4.5". Vortech is about 10" x 4" x 4". I didn't as Bell for a hp rating as I simply wanted something twice as big as current, however, they would probably rate it in the 900 - 1000 hp range. Rather than going the PTK route, I put my turbo in the same place that Powerdyne/Vortech/ATI puts their superchargers, except my compressor suction faces forward. I am mounting the new intercooler right behind the air dam, parallel to the ground. The air dam is 4.75", so the intercooler will be totally hidden when looking from the front. If you get down low, you'll be able to see the piping from the sides, so I'm painting the piping black to make it stealthy. I was going to paint the intercooler black also, but I just can't bear to paint over such pretty brushed aluminum and TIG welds.

Mike

 

How much did the cooler set you back, if you don't mind.

 

$1,080

 

Sounds like you hooked up with a great product. So since you are mounting the head unit on the drivers side, are you going to feed it via one bank or both? I would think it will be driven only one side considering available space and the other kits I have seen. I upgraded my PTK system from A2A to a A2W for about $ 400. This system has a 5 gallon tank and the core will support 1,200 hp applications. Personally I like PTK's design and placement of the head unit( much easier to work on) and it is a proven setup. I am curious to see what your kit produces as far as hp and times. Keep us posted on your progress!

 

maybe you didnt see the smiley face...or maybe you just like causing problems...it was a friendly comment and you dont need to loose a string out of your mangina on this


mike - sorry for bringing bs into your thread...sounds like a bad *** i/c and if you get any pics please do send my way

 

What kit have you seen that has a single turbo driven by only one bank of cylinders (V8 application) ? All single kits are fed by both banks...

 

Yep, got it running last night. The 2nd time I got on it, it died. Thinking for sure that something to do with the intercooler installation caused it, I was proven wrong. The rotor exploded in the Opti. It was in about 100 pieces. Anybody else explode a 6,000 mile rotor???

Replaced the Opti with a spare and it runs now. However, the dreaded high-boost stuttering is back. I don't know if it's the plugs (fouled from trying to start it with no spark) or the dirty terminals in the Opti (it had about 30,000 miles on it).

 

you hate me?? lol im glad a post could effect you so greatly...you dont know me and dont act like you do...nothing you have said matters or is true...show me a post of regurgitations of things that i've read but don't understand...till then peace

 

I will agree that the Bell Products are great. Gerhard hooked us up with an intercooler for an H3 we are building for the Sema show in vegas.

Knowing we were tight on time to complete the project Gerhard sent us out a mock up core to work with while he custom built the one we needed. Than took the demensions for the end tanks we sent him and just went ahead and produced the whole FMIC. Great customer service from the guys at Bell...I would recommend them highly.

heres a pic of the finished product from Bell


and heres the mock up core he sent us to use while he was making us the custom core
http://www.ccrdetroit.com/images/sto...ntercooler.jpg

Scott
www.ccrdetroit.com

 

SmoknZ- There are actually several kits that I have seen that use one bank to drive a single front mount. Turbo Tech had a system a few years back that was like this and I have seen several custom setups that utilize this as well. Its obviously not the most efficient and not to mention hard on the motor. But it does no less exist!

 

Mine feeds from both sides. I have the dreaded log header on the driver's side. I figured if a 231 cid V-6 can run in the 9's with a log header, then so can I.

What sucks is that I broke a piston yesterday. I'm taking this opportunity to switch to a 58 mm TB and a cam that's better suited to a turbo instead of the 224/236 blower cam.

Mike

 

Having a motor with one bank of exhaust under pressure and another one without much, must be a tuning nightmare. I can't believe that anyone in their right mind would ever run a kit like this, or for that matter of fact make a custom one I'm not saying it is impossible to make, and possibly work, but it just doesn't make sense. Why waste half your exhaust energy to not turn the turbo.