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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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I have a ls1 head and cam car that I would like to put a turbo on. Has anyone tried this setup on a h/c car? Any suggestions? Please keep this civil. I really need some help with this. Thanks
Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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Well I'm on for a pre Turbo Dyno session thursday morning. The STS Dyno will be installed on Sat. I don't have my HP Tuner VCM Suite yet, its supposed to be shipped. As soon as its here I'll go do some dyno tuning. Stay tuned and make your own decision. I'll post all results including time at the track.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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Sure it would work, but cam choice might not be the best if originally choosen for NA. Post specs, overlap is uaually a little high. Try a search on turbo cam.
Worked on some tuning and our LS1 should be on the dyno tom, will post results.

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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I had a feeling my cam might be a problem. It's a comp .569/.572 lift 224/228 duration and 112 lsa. I hate to pay for the labor to switch cams again but how bad will that lsa effect it. If I decide to change it for the turbo what should I go with. Thanks
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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Dynoed today on a Dynojet.

Here are the results.

Uncorrected

305.6 RWHP 324.9 RWTQ

Corrected

298.1 RWHP 317.0 RWTQ

AFR 11.33, a little on the rich side but not uncommon for a factory tune.

Sat. morning is the STS install.

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Jeepoo
Dynoed today on a Dynojet.

Here are the results.

Uncorrected

305.6 RWHP 324.9 RWTQ

Corrected

298.1 RWHP 317.0 RWTQ

AFR 11.33, a little on the rich side but not uncommon for a factory tune.

Sat. morning is the STS install.

Jeepoo
Wow, those have to be the lowest dyno numbers I've ever seen for any 02 LS1 car Are there any problems with the car causing it to run that rich, or do all the 02s seem to run that rich.
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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I don't know what kind of numbers you're talking about. A stock
WS6 LS1 is Factory advertised at 325 H.P. ( not rear wheel) and we know that these motors were likely in the 345 H.P. range.
Taking transmission and rear end losses into consideration, prob.
in the 11% to 12% the 300 RWHP is pretty accurate. Don't forget
this is the Internet and H.P. numbers are like fishing stories.
I could quite easily have lied and said it makes 590 H.P. would you have believed that? Anyways with a little tuning and improving the AFR numbers there's prob. another 10 H.P. somwhere.
My point was to establish a baseline H.P. prior to a Turbo install.

Jeepoo
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Said OVER and OVER...A DYNO is primarily for dyno tuning cars OR having a starting point and adding mods here and there to see how much HP you have gained..As long as you stay consistent(same dyno,etc..) its ok. Numbers are just numbers!

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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At first I thought those were with the STS as the title would imply. LOL, but nothing wrong with those numbers for a stock motor + there being more in it with a tune, considering that is ~55 more hp than my 95 put down with a catback and CAI. Looking forward to seeing what kind of numbers you put down with the turbo.

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Those numbers seem fine for a stock LS1 IMO...
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Jeepoo
I don't know what kind of numbers you're talking about. A stock
WS6 LS1 is Factory advertised at 325 H.P. ( not rear wheel) and we know that these motors were likely in the 345 H.P. range.
Taking transmission and rear end losses into consideration, prob.
in the 11% to 12% the 300 RWHP is pretty accurate. Don't forget
this is the Internet and H.P. numbers are like fishing stories.
I could quite easily have lied and said it makes 590 H.P. would you have believed that? Anyways with a little tuning and improving the AFR numbers there's prob. another 10 H.P. somwhere.
My point was to establish a baseline H.P. prior to a Turbo install.

Jeepoo
I understand, and am not bashing your car....... I have a few friends with 02 LS1 cars, and saw them both dyno in person on a dynojet dyno... and being as how all dynojets use the same correction software, I am simply wondering why your car seems low. Both of the cars I saw dyno personally were between 315rwhp and 320rwhp, bone stock. and I also know the guy who owns the dyno shop, and I found a couple other stock 02 F bodies that dynoed in his database, and one was above 320, and the other was an auto and it dynoed 316rwhp.... Maybe your car just doesnt have enough miles on it to be broken in.
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Every dyno is different. His #'s are fine...

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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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how can 300hp to the tires be bad lol you got to be kidding from a stock ls1? speaking of bad hp at the tires..i dont mean to bring this up but werent mustang cobras with the dohc engine puttin down like 240 hp to the tires.they were rated at 305 to 315hp at the motor......and there was a big uproar from ford owners just a few yrs back? i dont mean to flame but...heh







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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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LS1's are like fine wine, they get better with age... I've seen a brand new LS1 put down 295 to the wheels and then 20k later put down 325 with no other mods.

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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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i wish i had a ls1 lol ...ls1's producting 325 at the tires stock is amazing...my stock lt1 was prob puttin down 260 hp..to the tires if that ...im guessing i never had it dynoed..id like to see what the ls6's put down at the tires...





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