I love it when someone like Guido backs me (not directly, but sort of).

 

Dude get off of Robs *******.

You know good and well that if anybody else posted crazy #s like that everyone on here would be calling BS. I am not questioning Robs ability to build and tune cars, just pointing out the fact that those #s are so awesome theyre somewhat unbelievable. Oh BTW, if I bolt the turbo on my car I would NOT grenade my motor.

On the 8 day god created the LS1

 

Slightly unappropriate if I may say, but I still don't see where your arguement is going?

What will it take for you to believe these numbers? Video? live video? need to be there to witness it? Still don't believe the computer read-out??? I mean, I've never seen it, but if we don't someone's word as the truth at this point, we've got nothing more than wasted memory/bandwidth, right?

So, without being as much of an *** as you were in the previous post, explain what it'll take.

Oh, and I did not in any way mean to slam your precious motor. to you as well

 

Heh, im not trying to argue anything. Just because I said I was a little skeptical on the #s doesnt mean I dont believe them. Ive been debating on switching to a turbo on my next setup and results like this back that up even more. Go find another "nonbeliever" to pick a fight with.

Oh, and you can slam my precious motor all you want. Its currently sitting on an engine stand beside my car in pieces.

 

(keep in mind that i'm smiling while writing this and I, in no way, think I started this)

No harm, no foul. It just seems that no matter what the numbers are, someone has to say they don't quite believe.

Consider this discussion ended.

 

Like the STS turbo kit

 

That's an entire other topic, but I've got no beef with that kit either. Not my cup of tea, but it's gotta suit some people because there is a decent amount of interest in it.

 

I didn't intend to start a pissing match on if the numbers are real or not. I am talking theory and wanted the knowledge to back it up, not "Your questioning this person?" I don't care if God himself tuned the car, I just want to understand how a car makes more than double the NA power at less than double the atmospheric pressure. Looking for tech info.

 

I believe the numbers. These are what I would call overachiever numbers. Rob pushed and pushed to see what it would do.

I think an M6 dyno-friendly car will do 800-900 rwhp in a forged 9:1 LS1 no problem.

I make 746rwhp thru an unlocked turbo 400 also with stock head gaskets and stock crank.

 

Nice car Rob. That is just what I am looking for LT1 to do: Make lots of power, but be driveable and quiet. Right now my car makes lots of power, but is too loud. The blower whine is getting old and so am I. The numbers for that muffler look really good, it didn't loose that much power and kept it quiet.

That just goes to show that you don't need a large camshaft to makes lots of power, just good valve springs.

Has anyone adapted a turbo to the procharger twin intercoolers?
That would be ideal for me.

 

thats some sick power!rob does know his stuff.


now maybe some people can stop making generalized statements about ls1s not holding up under boost in stock form.probably not.



of course this isnt normal and you need to know what youre doing but this now proves it can be done.


i want a turbo now!

 

the car ran a handfull of 11.3's at 136mph this past weekend and now has some pretty bad blow by, according to the new info.

this kinda output was definitely a deviation from the mean.

if you do plan on this kind of output from your stock ls1, i reccomend you plan on it staying together for a couple passes max as demonstrated above.

trap speed is low to me for 775rwhp. i've seen similar weight turbo cars trap low 130's with 200 less hp... but what do i know?

 

Yea, on a stock 125,000 mile rear end, stock motor, stock tranny, and on only 11lbs of boost!


As usual, you make everything I say or do sound bad. You seemed to have left out the well known fact that I also put over 5000 HARD miles on this car with the turbo, daily driving it, with over 650rwhp.

REALLY??? Like who???

And to answer your question, I'm not sure you know anything....

Because you are well aware that I have already said we weren't running the car at 775rwhp on that pass (rather about 680ish rwhp). You also know about the pittiful track conditions on Opening Day there (as at least 10 people have already posted witnessing it themselves!). And you also know I was launching at idle and 60ft'ing 2.10's because of not wanting to break the stock rear end.

You just can't stand the fact that I make the same RWHP as you, and more RWTQ with a stock 125,000 mile motor, stock computer, smaller turbo, and less boost (13lbs vs 16+lbs) versus your ARE built motor, T80 Ball Bearing turbo on a Turbo Tech Race Kit, and a $3000 Standalone Fuel Management system!

Yea, I think I'd run around the net and slam ME about MY numbers!

 

I can not knock the guy. He is pushing the limits of an LS1 and demostrating how much abuse a stock bottom end can take. Any plans on a turbo kit for an Lt1?

 

I've got an idea Mightymouse. Stop feeling obligated to track down threads on the net about our progress and post your negative comments. You do your thing, I'll do mine. We'll let the dyno and the track do the talking.

As of right now, I seem to be the one with the highest dyno numbers and the quickest/fastest track time. When you can post up a timeslip and video, then you can criticize.

I really don't understand what your problem is anyway? You don't even own our kit anymore, so get over it already....