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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Reality Check Needed!!

I've been working on a turbo setup and I'm looking for some type of reality check as to what my output horsepower might be. I'm sure what I'm expecting and what I get are going to be totally different. Or if you see any problems in the system please speak up. Here's what I've got.

60-1 HI-FI turbo .84 turbine housing
custom header with 1 5/8 primaries into a 3" pipe to the turbo
Stock Shorty header with a 2 1/4 crossover to the 3" pipe
No Catback as of yet, probably 3.5" if it'll fit
1 5/8 pipe to the DeltaGate
2 1/4 discharge pipe

393 ci Engine
ported heads
Accel dfi with tuning by me(this is gonna be fun)
ZZ-9 Cam 212/226 112LSa .526/.520

Intercooler: None, but I was going to run a small shot of N2O to help.

PSI: 6-8 for starters 15 for fun

I do want to get a bigger turbo and cam eventually, but this is what I've got for now. What do you guys think?
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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stick with what your sig says =396+juice

That turbo is VERY wrong for your setup.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Could you explain why, or what would happen if I did run this system??
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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That doesn't look like a turbo cam to me but this is coming from a more n/a oriented guy so take my opinion for what it's worth.

Who recommended that cam?
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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no one recommended the cam, it's the biggest cam I had lying around with the least amount of valve overlap. Once things are working I'll get a more adaquate cam, more intake less exhaust, and a bigger turbo to hit the efficency range better.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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In the grand scheme of things, cams are cheap so you might just wanna put the right one in there off the bat ya know.

Just my 2 pennies.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Your going to NEED 2 of those dinky HiFi's for that motor. Check out Combination Motorsports for some turbo cam grinds!

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Your cam needs less overlap, and the 60-1 will run out of breath around 450rwhp. To get that thing running good you need at least a T70-T76.

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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Jose, you think the cam needs LESS overlap? I'm at -5* with that cam, I wouldn't think any less would help.

And I do know I need a bigger turbo I'm just looking for what this setup will get me. My budget is maxed for this project so I've got what I've got. 450rwhp is the only number I've seen so far, anything about any problems with the way the system will act?
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Wel if the cam has that overlap, then your ok. A 60-1 will get you 450rwhp, the thing is it will spool super quick and you'll probably hit the peak # at 4000-4500rpms, then the hp will drop off quickly. But it will do for a while until you can upgrade.

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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 02:48 AM
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Seems like a lot of work for very little gain. Might as well just run a mild n2o setup and go way faster.
Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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I know it's not a whole lot of gain right now, but if everything goes well I'll be getting a t-72 and slapping that on there. But I'm in the middle of finishing off my basement, fixing up my car, and a few othere things so the extra $1000 is kind of hard to come by right now. If All goes well I'll have one in another couple of months though.

450rwhp is still a 100rwhp gain so I'm thinking it's worth it.
Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Well its better then nothing I will say. As for 1000 dollars extra for a T72, I don't see why it would be that much. You could sell that 60-1 for 350-400 or so, and a T72 isn't that much. Just a thought. When you get ready to buy a turbo let me know, I can get you one at a pretty good price.

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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Ok guys, perhpas a new cam would be ok, I can spare $250 I guess. Lets say I went with a 221/218 114lsa .514 .526

over the ZZ-9 Cam 212/226 112LSa .526/.520

what would I be gaining hp wise with my current setup?


http://www.cmotorsports.com/engine/l...ft-design.html

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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by mn_vette
Ok guys, perhpas a new cam would be ok, I can spare $250 I guess. Lets say I went with a 221/218 114lsa .514 .526

over the ZZ-9 Cam 212/226 112LSa .526/.520

what would I be gaining hp wise with my current setup?


http://www.cmotorsports.com/engine/l...ft-design.html
I while back you claimed you wanted to run with the big boyz. Your going to need more turbo then that to hang with the guys that run around here
I dont know how much space you have in your car but I would probably just throw a T88 on the car. You will not need any juice with this. If you decide to go with a T76 make sure you have room for an exhaust housing larger then a .96a/r. This goes for your 60-1 as well.

Hope to c-ya out there this year; sounds like there is going to be a lot of cars



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