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PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

Old Feb 19, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Question PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

I purchased a PTK kit with the FMIC setup. After looking at the pictures online again, I noticed that the intercooler used seems to be a bit on the small size. I know that they claim it is good up to 1000FWHP, and I will only be in the 900FWHP range, but it still seems a bit small.

Here is a link with some pics:

http://www.forcedinductions.com/GMkits2.htm

Any remarks or experiences?
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Re: PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

this isnt going to help you at all but....ive often wondered about the HP rating on the intercoolers. my thought is that....okay, it will flow enough to make X number of horse power....but does that mean that is cools as well as an IC that is bigger (i mean bigger as in how much surface area it has for cooling)? because its seems that you could make a small IC that isnt very restrictive but it wont cool worth a darn???

sorry for posting another question on top yours snorkelface.....
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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oh and BTW, that is going to be one sick SS!!! are you going to drive it on the streets????
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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As long as they're using a good bar & plate design, it should be alright. The only pic they show of the intercooler is kinda misleading since it's from a side angle.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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I would bet PTK has done some testing to come up with a decent intercooler for their setup... I don't think I'd worry too much...

With the LT1 Formula's nose and no usable openings for a FMIC, I'm praying to the car gods that the ATI twin high flows aren't going to be too restrictive to get me to 700rwhp. Only time will tell.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Re: PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

I'll have to call them and ask them if it is a bar and plate design. I have no reason to run their intercooler if it isn't going to work optimally. It isn't as though I particularly care if I have to remove my fog lights to get a better one in there.

I'll have to get some pressure and temp drop specs on the one they use and start doing some comparisons. I just figured that SOMEBODY on this board may have this kit and could chime in.

Originally Posted by ss#1230
oh and BTW, that is going to be one sick SS!!! are you going to drive it on the streets????
Thanks, it will be a daily driven street car. Kind of pointless, huh?
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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how are going to get around smog?
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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What do you mean? Its going to be all smog legal. Cam, exhuast, turbo and everything.

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Re: PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

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What do you mean? Its going to be all smog legal. Cam, exhuast, turbo and everything.

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Exactly. My car shouldn't have any problems passing the sniffer as a blower cam will have a wide LSA. Besides, I meant I will daily drive on streets that are race tracks, not public roads.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by snorkelface
Exactly. My car shouldn't have any problems passing the sniffer as a blower cam will have a wide LSA. Besides, I meant I will daily drive on streets that are race tracks, not public roads.
Funny thing is that the custom cam I had ground by Brett has a very narrow lsa... and he said thats what works for my application... so I get the whine of a blower and at idle it'll lope like a ****.

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Ditto, except mine was ground by the head guy at Erson.
Old Feb 24, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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Re: PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

Originally Posted by snorkelface
I'll have to call them and ask them if it is a bar and plate design. I have no reason to run their intercooler if it isn't going to work optimally. It isn't as though I particularly care if I have to remove my fog lights to get a better one in there.

I'll have to get some pressure and temp drop specs on the one they use and start doing some comparisons. I just figured that SOMEBODY on this board may have this kit and could chime in.
Well I doubt PTK built a nice kit only to put an intercooler with it that wont support the power. Do you have any evidence to suggest that this intercooler is too small, other than looking at pictures of it?
Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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It looks to be 4" thick from the pic...should be fine.
Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Re: PTK A2A FMIC Large Enough?

I didn't say that it wasn't good enough. I just wanted to get some opinions/feedback from some people that have used the A2A on a relatively high-powered application (especially since I'm very close to what they rate the horse-power limit at). That's the main reason for a message board such as this.

With the money I've poured into this project, I don't want something as vital as the IC to not be up to task.
Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by snorkelface
I didn't say that it wasn't good enough. I just wanted to get some opinions/feedback from some people that have used the A2A on a relatively high-powered application (especially since I'm very close to what they rate the horse-power limit at). That's the main reason for a message board such as this.

With the money I've poured into this project, I don't want something as vital as the IC to not be up to task.
Is there any reason why you don't want to go with the Air-to-water? I have been looking at their kit for my buildup and I will probably go with the air-to-water.

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