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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Meth Injection w/ 2 core I/C

I need some advice on my setup. I have a P1SC supercharger kit with a 2 core I/C. Want to run meth injection but I was wondering if I should still run the 2 core I/C for a little extra cooling while driving in town.
Old May 26, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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If it were me, I would do both. Esp being there in tx temps can get pretty hot. You can also get a adjustable alky kit to spray only at WOT or come on between certin PSI of boost. thats just my $.02

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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Your 2 cents are appreciated. I would also like to know if anyone else has done this and if it netted anymore gains in horse power. This is compared to just having a good I/C setup or meth injection only.
Old May 26, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Your 2 cents are appreciated. I would also like to know if anyone else has done this and if it netted anymore gains in horse power. This is compared to just having a good I/C setup or meth injection only.

I read on here somewhere someone dynoed with a alky kit and gained a few HP then drained the tank and filled it back up with new alk that was sitting on ice for a few hours and saw a 17 RWHP gain over warm alky.
Old May 27, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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Do both. The alky injection is very efficient at combating detonation for a couple of reasons, 1. It cools the intake charge. 2. Alcohol or methanol effectively increase the octane rating, and it also suplies additional enrichment fuel. The only area that the injection kit falls short in is low boost and part throttle driving, where the kit is not operating. For these driving conditions the FMIC is preferred becuase it cools the intake charge at all times. You wont see a huge power increase just from installing the injection kit, most of the power increases come from the additional timing/boost that you'll be able to run becuase of the kit, so to fully take advantage of the alky injection it is better to be able to re-tune your car after it is installed.
Old May 27, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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I read on here somewhere someone dynoed with a alky kit and gained a few HP then drained the tank and filled it back up with new alk that was sitting on ice for a few hours and saw a 17 RWHP gain over warm alky.
That was me, I went with a buddy of mine while he had his car dyno tuned at TEA he iced his alcohol down in a cooler while they did the dyno tune with the room temp alky. After the car was tuned, he drained the tank and added the iced down alochol and gaineed the 17 RWHP.
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Go for both I would say, I don't see why it would hurt...

BTW where in West Texas are you? I am near Amarillo, there aren't too many s/c LT1's around here that I know of. I'd like to see a procharger on one . Hopefully I can get my blower motor built soon so I can put on my Vortech.
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Me and 275 HP live in Odessa, I work at the Lubbock Fire Dept though so when I'm at work I'm not too far from Amarillo. I'm also building a blower car. T-trim, FMIC, 8.2 to 1 CR eagle forged bottom end 50 lb injectors 255 fuel pump, and others. Both of ours are going together right now also.
Old May 27, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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^^^Nice...

How much boost are you gonna run? Probably a lot since you have such a low cr . I am gonna use a T trim on mine also.
Old May 27, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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I'm actually sortof in the same boat.

My AlkyControl kit is on the way, but I currently have a Vortech Aftercooler on my turbo. I REEEAAAALLY would like to get rid of the intercooler congesting my engine bay, the hoses, pump, water tank in the trunk, radiator, extra complication, etc. . . but don't want to hurt power either.

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Old May 27, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I'm gonna start with 14 to 16 PSI, I figure at this point my fuel system will limit me a little bit. After I'm able to get a proper fuel system in place I'm gonna try to max out the T-Trim, I'm also going to need better heads, I'm looking at getting a set of the trick flows and sending them to Lloyd. But before I start trying to make any more power I need to start doing a lot of chassis and drivetrain mods, its still got a 10 bolt

I really wanted to get one of those Vortech air to water aftercoolers, but there was no way I could afford all the parts for the engine I'm building and drop a 1000.00 or more on one of those aftercoolers. I ended up getting one of those 24x12x4 inch FMIC off of ebay for 300.00. If you ever decide to sell that aftercooler I would definately be interested, hopefully you won't decide to sell it before my finances recover from this current build up
Old May 27, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Meth Injection w/ 2 core I/C

BTW, do you ever race in Idalou, we go up there every once in a while.
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Breakmyfootoff has a better supercharger than I do. I feel that once he gets his car sorted out he will have a solid 10.xx car. The guy that he bought the supercharger from ran solid 11.0s and his car spun pretty bad on the line.

One of the things that I feel will help my car is that I already have a few suspension pieces on it. I want the car to make solid horsepower and torque but I also want it to get to the ground without alot of smoke. Hopefully it will all work out.

This is just a suggestion for all the f-body people in the Texas, New Mexico area. We should see if we could plan some sort of get together at Ida Lou race track (Lubbock TX). With a little help from Texas Speed and some of the surrounding shops it could be pretty interesting. We could probably invite the impala/caprice people as well. Some of those cars are some mean big body automobiles. This is just a thought, maybe I should start a thread on the Texas board.
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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I usually race in Amarillo, but I do want to run at Idalou soon, I hear the track is better down south . Yeah we should have am fbody get together in the LBK, there are tons of fast fbodies in Amarillo and a few in Plainview. Sadly, there are none other than me in Tulia .
Old May 28, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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I've got the bigger charger, you've got the better heads. Apart from that our cars are real similar. Looks like they're going to be completed close to the same time also. I'm thinking this is going to be a good oportunity to do some scientific comparison between two different forced induction theories. Smaller heads with more boost, or bigger heads with less boost. Obviously the best thing for power would be bigger heads AND more boost which is why I'm planning on the LE ported trick flows down the road.

I think a Lubbock get together sounds like a great Idea. If it happens real soon though I'll have to attend without my Z, Looks like it's still about a month away from being together. If anyone from the Lubbock area ever wants to come to the fire station for a tour and maybe a photo of their ride with engine 2 let me know, I can make it happen, plus theres no telling what else we'll be doing out there, our fire station is at the training facility so we are always doing some pretty cool stuff (rapelling, burining, jaws practice). I sold my nitrous shortblock to a guy named Jeromy from Amarillo and when he came to pick it up at the station we were burning and blowing up some cars for practice out on the training field and he got to watch. Some of the stuff that explodes on cars as they burn is pretty impressive.



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