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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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LE2 355 with a P1-SC procharger?

Well I am going on Nov 10th to pick up a 96 Formula WS6 that I just bought. It has a full suspension, stock bottom end with a LE2 kit on it. It has 4.10's in the rear now in the stock 10 bolt.

I planned on putting a forged bottom end it in a spraying a lot of juice to it. But, lately I have really been leaning towards a Procharger kit. I found one cheap that is a P1-SC HO unit with the twin intercoolers.

So basically, my question is, if I did a 4 bolt splayed main with the stock crank, Compstar rods, and forged 8.5:1 Compression pistons, would it be okay to run the kit with around 8-9PSI of boost?

I like nitrous and how much power it adds, but hate having to fill the bottle up and warm it before every run.

Also, what else would I need to look at as far as extra accessories to go with the Procharger kit?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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that bottom end setup will hold 9psi with no problems at all.... why not run 12psi?

you are going to need a good size fuel system too
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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why not buy my D1 kit and make some real numbers
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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I would also look at some ARP head bolts, and then I could say that your motor will probably be just fine in maxing out the P1SC.

I would also reccomend an ingnition box, methanol injection kit, a dual Walboro in-tank fuel pump setup, bigger fuel injectors, aftermarket adjustable fuel pressure regulator, as well as a good dyno tune to set it all off.

The best advise I can give is this; you don't yet even have the car yet, so you obviously have some time on your hands. Ask tons of questions on the board in both the Forced Induction section as well as the N20 section to find out all the facts before you make up your mind on anything. You can have an extremly fast car by going either route. The N20 side will almost definatly be cheeper by a landslide, but I can't deny that boost is addictive and a ton of fun even if it costs a lot more. You will find that if you just want a fast car, then staying N/A with a big cam will be the cheepest route, followed by possibly spraying it. If you are really wanting to go all out and do up the motor, you might as well save up a little more money and just go all out with a fully forged block, crank, ect. as well as save a little more for a D1SC, or maybe even an F1. This way, if you are going to spend the extra $ money to buy the supercharger, and do motor work, you might as well just save up a bit more and go all out so you can fully enjoy a 600+RWHP monster. Going with a less powerfull supercharger like the P1SC, plus minor motor work will be reliable, but it will cost thousands anyway, and won't yeild you nearly the power that going the extra mile will by running a good 15#-20#'s of boost safely will. Just my .02 cents.
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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I would also look at some ARP head bolts, and then I could say that your motor will probably be just fine in maxing out the P1SC.

I would also reccomend an ingnition box, methanol injection kit, a dual Walboro in-tank fuel pump setup, bigger fuel injectors, aftermarket adjustable fuel pressure regulator, as well as a good dyno tune to set it all off.

The best advise I can give is this; you don't yet even have the car yet, so you obviously have some time on your hands. Ask tons of questions on the board in both the Forced Induction section as well as the N20 section to find out all the facts before you make up your mind on anything. You can have an extremly fast car by going either route. The N20 side will almost definatly be cheeper by a landslide, but I can't deny that boost is addictive and a ton of fun even if it costs a lot more. You will find that if you just want a fast car, then staying N/A with a big cam will be the cheepest route, followed by possibly spraying it. If you are really wanting to go all out and do up the motor, you might as well save up a little more money and just go all out with a fully forged block, crank, ect. as well as save a little more for a D1SC, or maybe even an F1. This way, if you are going to spend the extra $ money to buy the supercharger, and do motor work, you might as well just save up a bit more and go all out so you can fully enjoy a 600+RWHP monster. Going with a less powerfull supercharger like the P1SC, plus minor motor work will be reliable, but it will cost thousands anyway, and won't yeild you nearly the power that going the extra mile will by running a good 15#-20#'s of boost safely will. Just my .02 cents.

I am running nitrous now on my stock motored car. I like it and I like how cheap it is but I get tired of filling the bottle and having to worry about warming the bottle everytime I wanna race.

The car I am getting has 36lb injectors and runs a 12.4 in the 1/4 all motor already. I am not looking for an all out race car but would like to have something that is fun to drive, fast, and can punch out a low 11 sec 1/4 mile with slicks. If I do go through with this I will use studs on the heads. It already has a Delteq ignition system so I don't know if that would be fine or if I would need to put a box on it still. Also, it has an aftermarket adjustable FPR already also.

The P1-SC kit I am looking at is CHEAP and if I sold all my nitrous stuff I would not be losing that much money. I have a Mallory 685 on the car now so I don't know if that would be good for the Procharger or not.

I know a lot about nitrous since I researched it for about a year before putting it on my car. Now that I might switch over to FI I am going to do the same.

Thanks for all the input guys, I would love to hear some more!
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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I would also look at some ARP head bolts, and then I could say that your motor will probably be just fine in maxing out the P1SC.

I would also reccomend an ingnition box, methanol injection kit, a dual Walboro in-tank fuel pump setup, bigger fuel injectors, aftermarket adjustable fuel pressure regulator, as well as a good dyno tune to set it all off.

The best advise I can give is this; you don't yet even have the car yet, so you obviously have some time on your hands. Ask tons of questions on the board in both the Forced Induction section as well as the N20 section to find out all the facts before you make up your mind on anything. You can have an extremly fast car by going either route. The N20 side will almost definatly be cheeper by a landslide, but I can't deny that boost is addictive and a ton of fun even if it costs a lot more. You will find that if you just want a fast car, then staying N/A with a big cam will be the cheepest route, followed by possibly spraying it. If you are really wanting to go all out and do up the motor, you might as well save up a little more money and just go all out with a fully forged block, crank, ect. as well as save a little more for a D1SC, or maybe even an F1. This way, if you are going to spend the extra $ money to buy the supercharger, and do motor work, you might as well just save up a bit more and go all out so you can fully enjoy a 600+RWHP monster. Going with a less powerfull supercharger like the P1SC, plus minor motor work will be reliable, but it will cost thousands anyway, and won't yeild you nearly the power that going the extra mile will by running a good 15#-20#'s of boost safely will. Just my .02 cents.
I agree, fun but very expensive
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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So would the Delteq be good instead of getting an ignition box? And say I did go fully forged with the bottom end now, and then put the P1-SC on the car, I could upgrade to a D1-SC later couldn't I?
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 97formulakid

The car I am getting has 36lb injectors and runs a 12.4 in the 1/4 all motor already. I am not looking for an all out race car but would like to have something that is fun to drive, fast, and can punch out a low 11 sec 1/4 mile with slicks. If I do go through with this I will use studs on the heads. It already has a Delteq ignition system so I don't know if that would be fine or if I would need to put a box on it still. Also, it has an aftermarket adjustable FPR already also.
An LE2 355 car should run low 11's ALREADY w/o a supercharger.

Mine does, and no, it's not a race car, and yes, it's full weight.
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
An LE2 355 car should run low 11's ALREADY w/o a supercharger.

Mine does, and no, it's not a race car, and yes, it's full weight.
That time was on a stock 10 bolt with 4.10s and street tires, so I'm guessing he has some spinning issues!!! His MPH was about the same as your but he was only pulling a 1.97 60' and his elevation was higher than you. Also was on a M6 not a stalled auto.

I believe that after some work to the car with a blower and a 12 bolt the car will easily run low 11's at my higher elevation.
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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LE2 stock displacement car trapping 119 is a rarity around here it seems.. at high elevation to boot. You should have the owner post up.
Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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I would also look at some ARP head bolts, and then I could say that your motor will probably be just fine in maxing out the P1SC.

I would also reccomend an ingnition box, methanol injection kit, a dual Walboro in-tank fuel pump setup, bigger fuel injectors, aftermarket adjustable fuel pressure regulator, as well as a good dyno tune to set it all off.

The best advise I can give is this; you don't yet even have the car yet, so you obviously have some time on your hands. Ask tons of questions on the board in both the Forced Induction section as well as the N20 section to find out all the facts before you make up your mind on anything. You can have an extremly fast car by going either route. The N20 side will almost definatly be cheeper by a landslide, but I can't deny that boost is addictive and a ton of fun even if it costs a lot more. You will find that if you just want a fast car, then staying N/A with a big cam will be the cheepest route, followed by possibly spraying it. If you are really wanting to go all out and do up the motor, you might as well save up a little more money and just go all out with a fully forged block, crank, ect. as well as save a little more for a D1SC, or maybe even an F1. This way, if you are going to spend the extra $ money to buy the supercharger, and do motor work, you might as well just save up a bit more and go all out so you can fully enjoy a 600+RWHP monster. Going with a less powerfull supercharger like the P1SC, plus minor motor work will be reliable, but it will cost thousands anyway, and won't yeild you nearly the power that going the extra mile will by running a good 15#-20#'s of boost safely will. Just my .02 cents.
Just found out today the car has 42 lb injectors. It has a delteq ignition on it, but would it be smart to get rid of that and go with a Mallory 685 or a MSD 6BTM?
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