High RPM breakup
High RPM breakup
Hey guys I have a problem that I never really noticed untill after I put the blower on my car. It seems like an ignition problem to me, but I don't know what to do.
Some details from after the blower install, and while tuning:
Opti had 35,xxx on it
Crane HI-6
Crane LX92 coil
new Taylor wires
new NGK TR6 plugs (checked the tips, all tight)
stock MAF (screen still in it)
LPE/Accel 58mm TB
Here is a dyno graph from then:
http://performin.homeip.net/images/hosting/joshdyno.bmp
Since I thought it was the Opti going south, I replaced a few items:
NEW GM opti (from a dealership)
New (again) TR6 plugs (checked the tips, all tight)
New (used) engine wiring harness (changed for other reasons)
New Bosch O2 sensors
Edelbrock 58mm TB.
The car is still acting EXACTLY like it was before.
BUT
A shop here in town recently had this exact problem with a heads/cam 97SS. Our dyno graphs looked almost exactly alike after 4500 rpm.
Some things about that car:
New opti
stock ignition
tried new coil, and ignition module
added Delteq-NO CHANGE
traced all the engine grounds-all checked out good.
Have any of you experienced this? What else should be checked?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!!!
Thanks,
Some details from after the blower install, and while tuning:
Opti had 35,xxx on it
Crane HI-6
Crane LX92 coil
new Taylor wires
new NGK TR6 plugs (checked the tips, all tight)
stock MAF (screen still in it)
LPE/Accel 58mm TB
Here is a dyno graph from then:
http://performin.homeip.net/images/hosting/joshdyno.bmp
Since I thought it was the Opti going south, I replaced a few items:
NEW GM opti (from a dealership)
New (again) TR6 plugs (checked the tips, all tight)
New (used) engine wiring harness (changed for other reasons)
New Bosch O2 sensors
Edelbrock 58mm TB.
The car is still acting EXACTLY like it was before.
BUT
A shop here in town recently had this exact problem with a heads/cam 97SS. Our dyno graphs looked almost exactly alike after 4500 rpm.
Some things about that car:
New opti
stock ignition
tried new coil, and ignition module
added Delteq-NO CHANGE
traced all the engine grounds-all checked out good.
Have any of you experienced this? What else should be checked?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!!!
Thanks,
Re: High RPM breakup
Originally Posted by DarkHorse
My sheet from last night looks just like that. I'm gonna try replacing the coil and plugs with a smaller gap.
Re: High RPM breakup
Re: High RPM breakup
Originally Posted by DarkHorse
Yours also starts out low, then jumps up drastically. Mine is gradually going up, then goes erratic.
Do you have a way to scan the pcm during the dyno run? Check for knock. What do you have the spark plugs gapped at? If the gap is too big, you're blowing out the spark. I would try to lean out that air/fuel ratio as well.
Now that's a dyno graph.
Now that's a dyno graph.
Re: High RPM breakup
Originally Posted by BADST95
Do you have a way to scan the pcm during the dyno run? Check for knock. What do you have the spark plugs gapped at? If the gap is too big, you're blowing out the spark. I would try to lean out that air/fuel ratio as well.
Now that's a dyno graph.
Now that's a dyno graph.
I have Autotap, and there is 0 knock retard...we have 17-18 degrees in it at WOT. The plugs are gapped at 0.035".
I envy you and your car, BADST95!!
Originally Posted by Ponyhntr
I would agree...hopefully I will have a graph that goes that high in the near future! But in the meantime:
I have Autotap, and there is 0 knock retard...we have 17-18 degrees in it at WOT. The plugs are gapped at 0.035".
I envy you and your car, BADST95!!
I have Autotap, and there is 0 knock retard...we have 17-18 degrees in it at WOT. The plugs are gapped at 0.035".
I envy you and your car, BADST95!!
Thanks for the kind words! It's not cheap to make that kind of graph.
Is your car a stick or an automatic?
Re: High RPM breakup
Originally Posted by BADST95
Thanks for the kind words! It's not cheap to make that kind of graph.
Is your car a stick or an automatic?
Is your car a stick or an automatic?

My car is a 6-speed.
Re: High RPM breakup
Originally Posted by BADST95
I almost wonder if the clutch is slipping... that might possibly create a "spikey" graph.
Originally Posted by Ponyhntr
I would consider that, but I know that that's not it...I've had clutch problems in the past (or so I thought), and it turned out to be just tire slip on the rollers. I have a new Stage III in it, and MT Drag Radials on it now, and there is no sign of slippage (even put 2 people in the trunk for one pull-no change). You can even feel it on the street at moderate throttle, no boost, where the tires are spinning.


