help me with shopping list, building turbo LT1
help me with shopping list, building turbo LT1
OK, I'm building a turbo kit for my RX7 with an LT1 and need someone to tell me what parts to buy. Here are the parts I'm buying, just need to know who to buy it from and what brand/kind
Turbo (TO4B?)
injectors
wastegate
header flange
BOV
rockers
valve springs
retainers
pushrods
lifters
cam
I really need to know if the TO4B is big enough to run like 6-8psi. I don't want to go overbored just yet. Also need to know what size injectors to get for 800hp+ (for later).
Turbo (TO4B?)
injectors
wastegate
header flange
BOV
rockers
valve springs
retainers
pushrods
lifters
cam
I really need to know if the TO4B is big enough to run like 6-8psi. I don't want to go overbored just yet. Also need to know what size injectors to get for 800hp+ (for later).
I would say a TO4 would be big enough for 6-8psi on an LT1, but will not make your 800HP goals for later. Just build it for 800HP now if thats what you know you will eventually want. You can always open up the waste gate and get the boost down.
I will make a few suggestions for the brand of each part.
Turbo, I would get the common 76mm from turbonetics, precision, or innovative, those are all really popular.
Injectors-seimans deka, waste gate- turbonetics racegate or their new really big one, For all the valve train parts you can get comp cams chromemoly parts they won't break the bank and are pretty nice parts, and I would get a recommendation from Cam Motion for the cam.
I will make a few suggestions for the brand of each part.
Turbo, I would get the common 76mm from turbonetics, precision, or innovative, those are all really popular.
Injectors-seimans deka, waste gate- turbonetics racegate or their new really big one, For all the valve train parts you can get comp cams chromemoly parts they won't break the bank and are pretty nice parts, and I would get a recommendation from Cam Motion for the cam.
Originally posted by 1994B4C
I would say a TO4 would be big enough for 6-8psi on an LT1, but will not make your 800HP goals for later. Just build it for 800HP now if thats what you know you will eventually want. You can always open up the waste gate and get the boost down.
I will make a few suggestions for the brand of each part.
Turbo, I would get the common 76mm from turbonetics, precision, or innovative, those are all really popular.
Injectors-seimans deka, waste gate- turbonetics racegate or their new really big one, For all the valve train parts you can get comp cams chromemoly parts they won't break the bank and are pretty nice parts, and I would get a recommendation from Cam Motion for the cam.
I would say a TO4 would be big enough for 6-8psi on an LT1, but will not make your 800HP goals for later. Just build it for 800HP now if thats what you know you will eventually want. You can always open up the waste gate and get the boost down.
I will make a few suggestions for the brand of each part.
Turbo, I would get the common 76mm from turbonetics, precision, or innovative, those are all really popular.
Injectors-seimans deka, waste gate- turbonetics racegate or their new really big one, For all the valve train parts you can get comp cams chromemoly parts they won't break the bank and are pretty nice parts, and I would get a recommendation from Cam Motion for the cam.
Injectors, where can I find seimans?
Forgive my ignorance but if you had a small turbo wouldn't you want a larger wastegate? A small turbo will allow less exhaust through compared to a larger turbo meaning alot of the exhaust would need to escape out the wastegate, therefore you would want a larger WG with a smaller turbo, right?
Re: help me with shopping list, building turbo LT1
Turbo (TO4B?)
I'd go with a T-76 GTQ trim
injectors
Siemens-Deka 72-83lb/hr injectors, low impedance
wastegate
Tial, 46mm
header flange
Don't know off the top of my head - you could just get some 1/2" plate and have them plasma cut.
BOV
Tial
rockers
Comp cams pro-magnum
valve springs
depends on cam, rpm, etc.
retainers
Titanium
pushrods
chrome moly
lifters
comp "r"
cam
depends on your hp/rpm goals. Best bet is to talk to someone who has experience camming turbo setups. Will also be highly dependant on what turbo you end up, your exhaust setup, and what boost levels you want.
Chris
I'd go with a T-76 GTQ trim
injectors
Siemens-Deka 72-83lb/hr injectors, low impedance
wastegate
Tial, 46mm
header flange
Don't know off the top of my head - you could just get some 1/2" plate and have them plasma cut.
BOV
Tial
rockers
Comp cams pro-magnum
valve springs
depends on cam, rpm, etc.
retainers
Titanium
pushrods
chrome moly
lifters
comp "r"
cam
depends on your hp/rpm goals. Best bet is to talk to someone who has experience camming turbo setups. Will also be highly dependant on what turbo you end up, your exhaust setup, and what boost levels you want.
Chris
Originally posted by Camaro37
Forgive my ignorance but if you had a small turbo wouldn't you want a larger wastegate? A small turbo will allow less exhaust through compared to a larger turbo meaning alot of the exhaust would need to escape out the wastegate, therefore you would want a larger WG with a smaller turbo, right?
Forgive my ignorance but if you had a small turbo wouldn't you want a larger wastegate? A small turbo will allow less exhaust through compared to a larger turbo meaning alot of the exhaust would need to escape out the wastegate, therefore you would want a larger WG with a smaller turbo, right?
Re: Re: help me with shopping list, building turbo LT1
Originally posted by Chris B
Turbo (TO4B?)
I'd go with a T-76 GTQ trim
injectors
Siemens-Deka 72-83lb/hr injectors, low impedance
wastegate
Tial, 46mm
header flange
Don't know off the top of my head - you could just get some 1/2" plate and have them plasma cut.
BOV
Tial
rockers
Comp cams pro-magnum
valve springs
depends on cam, rpm, etc.
retainers
Titanium
pushrods
chrome moly
lifters
comp "r"
cam
depends on your hp/rpm goals. Best bet is to talk to someone who has experience camming turbo setups. Will also be highly dependant on what turbo you end up, your exhaust setup, and what boost levels you want.
Chris
Turbo (TO4B?)
I'd go with a T-76 GTQ trim
injectors
Siemens-Deka 72-83lb/hr injectors, low impedance
wastegate
Tial, 46mm
header flange
Don't know off the top of my head - you could just get some 1/2" plate and have them plasma cut.
BOV
Tial
rockers
Comp cams pro-magnum
valve springs
depends on cam, rpm, etc.
retainers
Titanium
pushrods
chrome moly
lifters
comp "r"
cam
depends on your hp/rpm goals. Best bet is to talk to someone who has experience camming turbo setups. Will also be highly dependant on what turbo you end up, your exhaust setup, and what boost levels you want.
Chris
TO4B turbo
Tial 38mm wastegate with .3bar spring
1.7 forged rockers
Comp dual valve springs
Comp Ti retainers
7/16" rocker studs
Comp chromemoly pushrods
Comp Pro Magnum lifters
Comp 224/236 114 cam
pushrod guideplates
Areomotive fpr
1/2" header/turbo flanges
Apexi blow off valve
Lucas 42# injectors
All in one day
Can wait to start building this thing now. I wonder what I'm going to do for the heads now? Off to another post
as others said, that is a blower cam, it will work horribly with your setup.
1.7 rockers, very bad choice. valvetrain geometry and just plain lift is going to be too high.
you really should listen to people...
1.7 rockers, very bad choice. valvetrain geometry and just plain lift is going to be too high.
you really should listen to people...
Originally posted by LT1RX7
what cam should I have gone with then? I figured a cam for forced induction should have worked good for what I was building. I had no idea blower cam is different than turbo cam
what cam should I have gone with then? I figured a cam for forced induction should have worked good for what I was building. I had no idea blower cam is different than turbo cam
turbo cam is usually equal or greater intake duration, like 220/220 or 230/220........the smaller exhaust duration creates a higher exhaust velocity, spooling the turbo better...
atleast thats my understanding, im sure someone can give a better answer.
Originally posted by LT1RX7
actually a smaller turbo would be fine with a small wastegate. With a small turbo a big engine would suck up more air. This makes the turbo work harder to build boost. If the turbo works harder, the wastegate can be smaller
actually a smaller turbo would be fine with a small wastegate. With a small turbo a big engine would suck up more air. This makes the turbo work harder to build boost. If the turbo works harder, the wastegate can be smaller
What are the specs on that turbo? Why did you choose that? I don't think a TO4B will do well at low boost levels.


