Well, after some deliberating, I've decided to canx the 383/solid roller idea and go from something that will make more power and be more streetable.

First off, the bottom end. Right now it's a 355 that's essentially brand new. Less than 500 miles. It's got an Eagle ESP crank and Eagle ESP 4340 5.7" H-Beam rods. Pistons are 11:1 diamond ultra-lites, which for obvious reasons are going bye bye. We're going to re-bearing the bottom end and throw some 8.5-9.0:1 pistons in. The bottom end possibly may need to be taken .010 over for a 4.040 bore, at which case I may opt for another block to keep from overboring. More to some on that.

Heads: I just purchased a set of Trick FLows that I'm going to have fully ported by Advanced Induction. Intake manifold will be worked accordingly. Cam will be a hydraulic roller, custom built.

Blower: Here's where the advice comes in. I'm scoping two kits: The Vortech T-Trim with aftercooler, or the ATI D-1SC with twin high flow intercoolers. Right now, I'm heavily leaning towards the D-1SC due to price and the fact the shop with my motor is a large ATI dealer and can get the D-1SC kit for me for about $4k.

Goals: I'd like to see 600-650 RWHP. Would like to keep boost at around 16 LBS, so whatever that gets me I get I guess (speaking in terms of power). Car will be street driven (reason for blower move) frequently.

So......any thoughts for me??? I'm new to the forced induction world and am open ears!!!! Would .040 be too much for a stock block?? Will the EAgle Crank/Rods hold up to this kind of power??

 

Well well well..... Jumping ship I see. Kewl! About the .040 I really don't think that will be much of a problem. I'm .040 on my block and it's been reliable since day one. Granted I'm not blown yet but will be in the next few months. I say go for it but I'd ask Golen just in case. Good luck w/ the project and welcome to the FI club!

 

Yeah, I was against moving to a blower, but a certain person who used his own car as an example managed to smack some sense into me. For a street/strip car, to really make the power forced induction just makes the most sense. It's tame enough to be driven on the street, but nasty enough to turn good track times. A big solid roller setup just won't have the same abilities, and it just took me some time to kick the whole N/A thing.

 

I feel ya man. I'm a NA guy myself but having drove my 1st blown car 3 mos ago it has left my mentally scarred in a good way. LOL!

I'd say go ATI esp since your shop is a distributor etc. I in the process of buying a D1SC myself w/ the SDCE 12 rib pulley tensioner setup w/ 14psi and the new 4.5" IC's. Should have in my possession come the end of Feb if not sooner. I'm just waiting to see if Bob @ EPP does a GP this holiday season 1st.

 

Go with the single, large, front mount intercooler. It works better than the twins. Also, spend the $$ and have the SDC tensioner installed. And be prepared to wait, they aren't very fast.

You may want to look at a good set of main caps if you don't already have a set.

 

With that much power, a 4 bolt main block is a good idea.

Don't rule out Vortech just yet. They make a great blower too. It's called the
V7 Ysi. It is capable of making over 1000 hp and I would pick it over the ati d1 any day of the week. Just use the S-trim brackets and a custom intercooler installation. Too bad Vortech doesn't make a kit like they do for the rustangs. They just don't get it.

I myself ran the V2 with the aftercooler the last few years (the V2 supports approx 680 horse). It is nice and quiet, unlike my previous ATI P600B. Makes enough power for me.

 

So how are people using the single IC? Are they cutting the front of their nose of the car where the fog lights go to get the air? That's my only problem w/ the single IC is I don't want to cut the nose up in order for it to be effective. Thanks for any insight.

 

Get the T-trim and buy my vortech aftercooler. I made 680 rwhp through it with a th350/loose converter.

 

If your going to buy the t-trim, why not go one step up and get the Ysi and put street pulleys on it (underdrive it). The aftercooler should work on lower boost levels.

 

LOL @ thread title

 

Yeah, the block is going to get splayed 4 bolt mains. I'm pretty set on the ATI at this point on price alone, not to mention the shop I'd be buying/working on the install with is less than two miles from my place, so customer service wouldn't be a worry. Plus I like the self contained idea behind the ATI.

I'm not looking to make 1000 HP. I think the Ysi would probably be overkill, same as the F series ATI blowers would be overkill.

 

It depends on the car. Z cars are easy, you just cut the front a bit and add a billet grill. I'm still trying to figure out how to do it with my TA, right now the 98+ front end conversion is looking like the best (if expensive) way to do it.

 

Ok guys, question time.

I've decided on the ATI with the twin 4.5" high flow intercoolers. I don't want to hack up the front end, it's not a race car, so what I get is what I get.

Here's what the setup is goingto be:

355 bottom end, splayed 4 bolt mains, Eagle Cast ESP Crank (3.48"), Eagle ESP 4340 Forged H-Beam rods (5.7"), pistons 8.5-9.0 compression ratio are still TBD, O-ringed block.

Advanced Induction ported Trick Flow Heads (have bare castings sitting here, THey're NICE), manifold, valvetrain setup, and custom hydraulic roller cam (nothing too wild I'm thinking, as it will still be a street driven car).

Computer is most likely going to be a F.A.S.T. XFI.

And the ATI D-1SC.

Now......say the cam is in the 218-230 I/E range @ .050 with upper .500's lift. With a proposed 15-18# of boost and enough fuel, what kind of power do you think I can get out of it??? Personally, I'd like to see 650 at the wheels, but I'm not going to scream if I don't. More??? cool beans!

Thanks everyone. Like I said before, this blower stuff is very new to me as until a week ago I was die hard "all motor." Your help has been great.

 

I would probably buy a better crank before I invested in a FAST system. That's just my opinion though.

 

FastBird, what size injectors are you going with? 650 should be w/in your reach as I'm shooting for 650-700rwhp in my stroker w/ 14psi max. No place around here to have o-ring work done reliably thus 14psi max. You are about to spend a ton of $$ if you didn't know already. I'm already @ 10K w/ the charger and supporting parts! But GP season is around the corner so hopefully I'll get lucky and get under 8.5K.