Forced Induction Supercharger/Turbocharger

Can you use long tube headers for a turbo setup?

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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by evilundisguised
How is intake air temperature relevant to the turbine? You need a differential across the turbine, not the engine.
Yes, I may not have been clear enough. I was talking about intake air past the turbo, and exhaust past the turbo.

Originally Posted by reamo04
the smaller AR compensates for less flow. The A/R's smaller size is proportional to the loss of flow. You cannot re-introduce velocity. Simple physics. You can argue that all you want. It COMPENSATES, does not create velocity.
I'd like you to explain this me to (and Garrett).

Since the motor keeps pumping air, pressure in the system is controlled by the restriction (A/R) size. If you have an open exhaust you have no backpressure. If you have a 1/4" diameter tailpipe, you have alot of pressure. Since the A/R controls the pressure, a smaller A/R (tighter nozzle) increases exhaust speed. It's an extremely basic concept.
You're telling me speeding up fluid flow with pressure is a violation of physics?...

It almost sounds like you're confused by what I mean by re-introduce. What I mean by that is, you are re-introducing velocity (that normally might not be there in comparison to a front mount) by increasing pressure with the use of a smaller nozzle (A/R).

Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
Hell, look at how a turbo buick is setup and see how much heat is lost between the head and the turbo.
Obviously I wasn't implying that all front mounted turbo's are 6 feet away...
I was comparing my LT1 exhaust pipe length, to a typical front mounted LT1. Comparing it to something entirely different, would have made no sense whatsoever as far as delivering my point.

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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeGyver
Yes, I may not have been clear enough. I was talking about intake air past the turbo, and exhaust past the turbo.



I'd like you to explain this me to (and Garrett).

Since the motor keeps pumping air, pressure in the system is controlled by the restriction (A/R) size. If you have an open exhaust you have no backpressure. If you have a 1/4" diameter tailpipe, you have alot of pressure. Since the A/R controls the pressure, a smaller A/R (tighter nozzle) increases exhaust speed. It's an extremely basic concept.
You're telling me speeding up fluid flow with pressure is a violation of physics?...

It almost sounds like you're confused by what I mean by re-introduce. What I mean by that is, you are re-introducing velocity (that normally might not be there in comparison to a front mount) by increasing pressure with the use of a smaller nozzle (A/R).


i was talking about in front of the turbine (pre-turbo) that the smaller A/R compensates. I must have read what you typed wrong lol. The smaller A/R will increase exhaust speed AFTER it goes through the turbo - yes. The smaller AR compensates for the lack of flow pre-turbo, and creates more air post turbo. I agree with this.

What I thought you were saying was that the smaller A/R would increase velocity pre-turbo lol. Thats my bad man
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 02:39 AM
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Lol, no problem. something sounded amiss.
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