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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Originally Posted by jonota
Hmm....

I only have the PCV valve on the passenger valve cover, and a breather/filter on the oil cap location... nothing on the driver's valve cover. Is there supposed to be something there? Noticed a bit of oil leaking from a few locations after my first WOT run (finally have fuel pressure problem fixed...)

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Thats not the pcv valve in your passenger cover. PCV valve is on the drivers side of the intake manifold and sucks air from the lifter valley.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Originally Posted by Sparkz28ss
a panavac system will work well on a n/a engine....

I just hook mine up to the intake side of the blower
Any more info on this?
I don't have a blower on yet but I've been thinking about putting a 3/4" or so fitting on the pan for the oil return with a "T" fitting close to the pan. One side would run up to a breather or maybe oil separator. That way the blower never would get any pressure from the crankcase either.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

My apologies... I sometimes mix the breather hose and PCV since they do similar functions.. anyone have an answer to my question? Or a pic of their driver's valve cover?

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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Originally Posted by jonota
My apologies... I sometimes mix the breather hose and PCV since they do similar functions.. anyone have an answer to my question? Or a pic of their driver's valve cover?

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I don't have anything on my drivers side valve cover. I got rid of the breather that procharger supplied for the oil filler cap. It would drip oil after WOT runs.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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Today I finished the install of the Mr. Gasket Crankcase ventilation system. And man does it suck (in the good way)...I had the local exhaust shop weld the fluted tubes at a 45* angle into the header collecters a few inches past my 02's. Threaded on the inlcuded 1-way valves and connected 5/8's inch heater tubing to the inlet of each valve, I ran this tubing up hugging the bellhousing/firewall. The Mr. Gasket Kit requires you to drill 1.22inch holes into your valve covers to use their breathers. I opted not to do this since I had a spare set of valve covers, I put a (passenger) valve cover onto the driver side head, so now I have a stock breather location (and oil fill cap) on both valve covers, I then went and purchased a 5/8's to 3/4in reducer fitting to connect the 5/8inch heater hose to the 3/4 outlet of each valve cover. There is no breather inline to my system, but I havn't witnessed any signs of oil getting past the tubbing yet. (a.k.a. no blue smoke)

If you guys would like I can post pictures that better explain this. The point is, even at Idle I can pull one of these tubes out the valve cover and it'll suck you're finger to it. Bring the revs up and it really starts to move air. I imagine under WOT under load it's a hard system to beat. I've done half a dozen WOT runs to 80ish today, and havn't noticed any oil pushing past my front main....granted it's only been a day, but I think it may have solved my leak problem...

This was a cheap install, not very difficult, and it puts the dirty air out my exhaust not in my intake...so even if it starts to suck a lil' oil, I don't see it hurting anything...no maf's to dirty in the exhaust ...
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:46 AM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Where did you get this system at?

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Jegs...earlier in this post I believe I mentioned that...its the kit that's pictured on the earlier pages...the Crankcase Evac System...40 bucks after shipping if it's the only thing you buy...After installing it, it's pretty obvious this would be very simple to make yourself, hardest part would be choosing what 1-way valve to use...
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:25 AM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Even though I know what this looks like now through some pics up for GP Americanmuscle if you don't mind. Glad this has worked out for you too.
Thanks.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Here ya go:





Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

AmericanMuscle33- That looks pretty sweet. Did those breather tubes (3/4" to 5/8" connector) come in the Mr Gasket kit? How about the Mushroom breathers? What are you doing with them? Your getting good vacum at idle?
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

The 3/4 to 5/8's plastic tubes came from napa for 'bout $3.00. They're called heater hose connectors. The mushroom looking breathers are 1-way check valves, and yes they came in the Mr. Gasket kit. The kit comes with everything needed to drill holes in the valve covers and use they're breathers and gromets...I just opted to not do any drilling since I had a spare pass valve cover. And yes, I was getting excellent vacuum at idle. Hope this helps...Oh, and I have a ton more pictures, if you guys need anything else cleared up, ask, or PM me...

BTW: on a side note, this may have been a short lived success, I think i toasted my second shortblock in 3months coming home tonight...I'll be posting in another section of the board, but I'm pretty sure I shattered ringlands again. Chug-o-death, round 2...
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

Thanks Americanmuscle 383! I guess my only question is why are the flutes welded back vs w/ the outflow of the exhaust, does it matter?

Sorry to hear bout' the engine too and I hope it's not as bad as you suggested.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:40 AM
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Re: Boost and cranksase ventilation.

The flutes are pointed towards the back of the car (going with the flow of exhaust, rather than facing it). What this does is causes the air to flow around the flute, creating low pressure area...this large amount of low pressure is what creates the vacuum effect. If you pointed the flute upstream, exhaust would attempt to flow through it, a.k.a. filling the crankcase with pressure and dirty exhaust, rather than vice versa. The 1-way check valves ensure you get zero backflow of exhaust into you're crankcase.

Thanks for the wishfull thinking...but I'm pretty sure the car is done...once again...I'll take a closer look tomorrow, but its looking like I'll be forced to part things out in order to pay for this...I'll make a post tomorrow explaining everything...My scanmaster datalogged some weird stuff when it let go...I have a feeling the tuning on my ECU is to blame for bad timing, and two blown shortblocks... ...I'm not going to go around pointing fingers, this is what I get for boosting stock things...
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Crankcase Ventilation Please Help?????

i did a search and came up with nothing rocksolid as in what to do...

what i was figuring to do was weld 2 10an bungs one to the driver side the other to the pass side valve covers to a vented catch can with a drain petcock at the bottom of it...into something like this

http://www.allstarperformance.com/product.htm?prod=26

then my problem is what do i do about a vaccum source off the intake to get the contaminants out of the oil and system. i read to leave the pcv valve in place then add a oil/water separator in line then hook up to inlet side of the TURBOS....but heres my problem i dont want oil in my IC or in my TURBOS at all only whats supposed to be in there lubricating it but not through the intake passages

what do i do on this end to pull vacuum w/o using the inlet of the turbo will i be forced to use a seperate vacum motor to vent contaminants from the system...but then they said i would need to add a checkvalve inline to the seperator..
plus i would have to weld the pcv port on the intake shut in order to delete it, is there another way to go about providing a vacuum source to do so.

any help would be greatly apprecaited.
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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me and jeff gilbert both run the mr gasket set up, it works very good



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