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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Re: Bigger then a T76

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I am sooo power hungry that I want a 1000whp daily driver.

Drive around on like 3-5lbs then bump it up to like 625 on 12 for pump... then whatever for C16!
1000rwhp daily driver is not realistic. To make that kind of power and actually put it to the ground without breaking is going to be next to impossible. Expect a lot more downtime than you think...

As far as keeping the boost down for daily driving, I hope you have a lot of big wastegates. Mike said that taking the spring completely out of his 40mm wastegate (so it stayed open all the time) gave him a minimum of 12psi boost with a T76GTS... I have a similar setup to him and I'm sure I'll run into the same problem.
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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1000rwhp daily driver is not realistic. To make that kind of power and actually put it to the ground without breaking is going to be next to impossible. Expect a lot more downtime than you think...

As far as keeping the boost down for daily driving, I hope you have a lot of big wastegates. Mike said that taking the spring completely out of his 40mm wastegate (so it stayed open all the time) gave him a minimum of 12psi boost with a T76GTS... I have a similar setup to him and I'm sure I'll run into the same problem.
Whoever said anything about hooking the car up at a strip? haha... I sure as hell didn't! I know that much! As long as I can grab traction in 5th i'm good! :-)
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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The potential to get more hp whenever I need it.
More than 1000rwhp? K

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plus the bigger turbo is always an eye grabber to myself more then anyone else.
So because it looks cooler, despite not performing as well under 99% of YOUR driving conditions

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I am sooo power hungry that I want a 1000whp daily driver.
Not gonna happen
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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More than 1000rwhp? K



So because it looks cooler, despite not performing as well under 99% of YOUR driving conditions



Not gonna happen
Why won't it happen? Why can't it happen with the right parts and a lot of boost? Ok... so maybe 900whp!

I am not going to drive around on C16 man... I am not going to be making 900-1000whp on pump. If that's what you're think. They have 700+whp Evos driving around... you don't think a LT1 can do it?

You don't even know what my goals are with this and you're talking mess... why speak at all if you got nothing friendly to say? This is a forum... a social gathering in real life.
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Why won't it happen? Why can't it happen with the right parts and a lot of boost? Ok... so maybe 900whp!

I am not going to drive around on C16 man... I am not going to be making 900-1000whp on pump. If that's what you're think. They have 700+whp Evos driving around... you don't think a LT1 can do it?

You don't even know what my goals are with this and you're talking mess... why speak at all if you got nothing friendly to say? This is a forum... a social gathering in real life.

My point is this: Tons of people want a 1000rwhp daily driver, and it just doesnt happen. By the time you put the necessary parts on this vehicle that will hold up to 1000rwhp, you wont want to drive the vehicle on the street. It just wont be a reliable vehicle for daily use. **** is going to break all the time. And it isnt as simple as putting a T88 on the car and then running around at 3-5 psi of boost on pump gas.

Again, all I'm saying is that everybody wants a car they can drive everyday, and then just suddenly turn the boost up and have 1000rwhp. It just isnt realistic.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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It just wont be a reliable vehicle for daily use. **** is going to break all the time.
It can be reliable when running low boost, but you wouldnt want to drive the car everyday that you just spent $30k upgrading It would suck to get it all together and some meat head on the road T bones ya or rearends ya!
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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It can be reliable when running low boost, but you wouldnt want to drive the car everyday that you just spent $30k upgrading It would suck to get it all together and some meat head on the road T bones ya or rearends ya!
I would definitely want to drive the thing everyday! I would be running everyday on low boost... I loved driving my VRE LE3 383 setup everyday. I drove it every single day... it was a blast. But then I wanted more power. haha
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Gas prices + Paranoia start kickin in eventually. As mentioned above, do you really want to go to a movie and worry someone might jack the car you just spent $30k+ building?

All I will say on the matter is have it appraised by someone who knows hot rods and have it done every 2-3 years.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Gas prices + Paranoia start kickin in eventually. As mentioned above, do you really want to go to a movie and worry someone might jack the car you just spent $30k+ building?

All I will say on the matter is have it appraised by someone who knows hot rods and have it done every 2-3 years.
No one likes American cars in my area... haha It's either Exotic or Import. I'm not worried about my car getting broken into... I mean it's in the back of my mind but the cars i'm rolling with aren't slow either so that's kind of a comforting feeling.

Besides, no one will know how fast the car is anyway because I don't race like that. This is all for personal desire here.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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I forgot to mention the part about the 2 A-1000 fuel pumps and the... no such thing as gas mileage. goodluck on the build tho
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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RealQuick- I am using a 355 ci so I should be more then ok considering I am copying a friends car that made 950rwhp with a PTE-76GTS. The 80mm is worth around 100hp so I should be right at 1,000 everything being equal. And even if not I could care less since so many people onlone get so hung up on dyno queens. yeah its cool to have 1,000 HP but I have seen cars with half that that are much faster and actually drive down the road. And most people have no idea of what it costs. I have spent about 25,000 so by no means is it cheap to do it right like you probably realize.
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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RealQuick- I am using a 355 ci so I should be more then ok considering I am copying a friends car that made 950rwhp with a PTE-76GTS. The 80mm is worth around 100hp so I should be right at 1,000 everything being equal. And even if not I could care less since so many people onlone get so hung up on dyno queens. yeah its cool to have 1,000 HP but I have seen cars with half that that are much faster and actually drive down the road. And most people have no idea of what it costs. I have spent about 25,000 so by no means is it cheap to do it right like you probably realize.
I know it's going to be expensive... that's why the turbo setup is going on last. The entire car is pretty much being built other then suspension. Once I get the car back (n/a) I will setting up the suspension basically right in the middle of drag/road course setup. I am not big on either but I love the idea of good handling and mediocre traction. I'll get over the traction issues since I don't drag much and I do mostly roll racing. I just like the power being at my fingertips.
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Two things...

1. Anything you do to the suspension setup at 350 hp will have to be completely rethought if you triple the hp/tq the car makes

2. Mediocre traction is not something you want to contemplate in a fifty thousand dollar car on a highway where you may end up killing yourself or worse, someone else.
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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RealQuick- I am using a 355 ci so I should be more then ok considering I am copying a friends car that made 950rwhp with a PTE-76GTS. The 80mm is worth around 100hp so I should be right at 1,000 everything being equal. And even if not I could care less since so many people onlone get so hung up on dyno queens. yeah its cool to have 1,000 HP but I have seen cars with half that that are much faster and actually drive down the road. And most people have no idea of what it costs. I have spent about 25,000 so by no means is it cheap to do it right like you probably realize.
PTK's customer that made the 950rwhp was at 24psi I believe. Thats alot of boost to run. Like I said, 383ci makes the T76 turbo move into a less efficient range, so I doubt 950rwhp is possible with that turbo. You are running a 355ci, so its possible.

With that said, everyone wants 1000rwhp. but anything over 700rwhp is tough to hook on the street with a V8 engine( hooks 3rd or 4th only depending on tire). I'll be happy with 650rwhp on pump and 800rwhp on C16.
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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I agree with Jon... Thanks to him, I'll be making some serious horsepower in a street-driven pump gas 383 T-76 combo. I don't care about numbers at this point, I just want "a fun street car".

I've put more money into my car in the last 2 years than I care to think about. The first 1.5 years were just getting the chassis, suspension, and drivetrain up to par to handle 800rwhp. Hell, I'm still scared of breaking the fully-built T56 with viper shafts. If it breaks, I'm going to fork out the money for something with straight-cut gears and lots more strength.

The last 6 months included the new engine (forged 383, full race port trickflows), turbo setup (custom hot parts built by Jon), FAST system, E-boost2, fuel system (new from tank to rails), and other odds and ends. The engine was built with the best parts at wholesale cost with free labor and the last 6 months still cost $15k.

And as someone else mentioned, yes, I will be scared to drive it on the street due to other idiot drivers... If it gets wrecked, I'm definitely buying it back and moving everything to another 4th gen chassis.

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