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1996 SS Camaro owner requesting advice.

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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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1996 SS Camaro owner requesting advice.

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Thanks for reading my post, I have known about camaroz28.com for years but never signed up on the forums until now. I currently have a 1996 SS Camaro (you can look here for the details) I am seeking advice on regarding performance.

The advice I am seeking is regarding horsepower gains. I want to build some horsepower however want to be as minimally invasive as possible, and without putting a high level of increased stress on powertrain/drivetrain components. I don't have to be the fastest guy on the street, but I would like to be able to dust stock LS1 powered cars. I plan very few modifications; the only ones I am dead set on are sub frame connectors, strut tower brace, and something better than the stock opti spark.

I thought about it for a bit and am considering going with a vortech supercharger.
  • Since everything is bolt on I can minimize major modifications to the internal engine components.
  • It’s something I could always remove in the future if desired. I
  • like being able to purchase a complete package from vortech with everything I need.
  • This is not a daily driver and sees about 80 miles a month.
  • I was thinking something like this.
What is your thoughts on this line of thinking? Is there anything else I should consider? Any thoughts/comments/opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

I wasn't sure exactly where this post belonged, so I put it in the LT1, and forced induction sections.

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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That should be fine, however some people have luck with superchargers on stock motors and some dont. If you could afford at least forged pistons then it would def be fine. but a set of heads/cam with supporting mods would be cheaper and youd reach your goal of dusting stock and even lightly modded LS1's
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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Honestly, you may even consider an STS kit. It would require almost no modifications, leave the engine/bay looking stock, no whistle at idle, and it's similar in difficulty to installing a muffler.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TransAm396
That should be fine, however some people have luck with superchargers on stock motors and some dont. If you could afford at least forged pistons then it would def be fine. but a set of heads/cam with supporting mods would be cheaper and youd reach your goal of dusting stock and even lightly modded LS1's
Appreciate the advice. After reading some posts on the LT1 forums, I am concerened about the compression ration on the stock LT1 and as you said, lack of forged internals. I dont want to get to invasive with the car so that rules out a cam, however I can see myself going with an LT4 intake, throttle body, and maybe some 1.6 RR's.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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The Vortech kit should work fine at low levels of boost. Without forged internals and at the stock compression ratio you are going to be limited.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric@Victory Racing
The Vortech kit should work fine at low levels of boost. Without forged internals and at the stock compression ratio you are going to be limited.
I wouldn't consider going above the 6psi they recomend.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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So it sounds like a perfert fit then. We carry Vortech products, so if you have any questions or are interested in purchasing anything, let me know.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric@Victory Racing
So it sounds like a perfert fit then. We carry Vortech products, so if you have any questions or are interested in purchasing anything, let me know.
I will definetly consider it, prices looked fair. I am not sure which way I am going to go as of yet. If I pull the trigger on a vortech system it will be in January.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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tick.... tick..... tick........







boooooooooommmmmmmm

Just be aware that the motor may go 10k miles or 10 miles after the install. Only do forced induction if you have a daily driver other than your fbody...

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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I have 1996 ss also and i stated out the same way as you and i put a procharger on it a p1sc and it ran really good and i never had a problem out of except for the opti and i put a gm back in it,but if you go to buy a new opti get the accell it works great i have it in my car now with the new engin and i spin the to 7800 rmp with no problems at all and it a really nice piece and its cheap ,my ss had 45k on it when i put the first charger on it and tolk it off still running fine
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Thanks for all the help all. While I am not sure exactly what I am going to do yet, I don't think I will be supercharging. Just seems too risky, and maybe a little more than I really want to get out of this car. For now I am going to keep it basic. I might consider and intake/throttle body/1.6RRs in the future.

Dynotech Dynaspark Distributor
Very informative article about optis and this unit here.

Plugs and Wires

Jet Hot Coated Hooker Longtube Headers w/ O2 bungs pre-welded
Kinda using this page as a guide. I am a bit confused regarding the PCM, EGR and O2 Sensors. Once I go to LT's, does this mean I have to reprogram the PCM to support no EGR? Do I need to reprogram the PCM if I am using Cats and O2 extensions? Are high flow cats going to kill my gains/sound?

Some kind of high flow CATs -
Suggestions?

3" Y Pipe. - Suggestions?

GMMG Exhaust System
Subframe Connectors –
Bolt ons from SLP (Don’t want to weld on the car)
Strut Tower Brace

I would appreciate any/all input on things I am missing or should be considering or reconsidering.

Thanks.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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Re: 1996 SS Camaro owner requesting advice.

Originally Posted by 1SLOW SS
i spin the to 7800 rmp with no problems at all
Stock PCM is limited to 7000. So unless your running some sort of aftermarket PCM, and have alot of highend valvetrain parts, I call BS. Why would you spin a supercharger motor that high, your probably way overspinning the charger as well unless your running some crazy low boost pully setup, and then it would be a slow pooch at low rpm.

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SLOW SS
I have 1996 ss now with the new engin and i spin the to 7800 rmp with no problems at all
I think I smell a big ol pile of poopie
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Re: 1996 SS Camaro owner requesting advice.

he prolly meant 6800..if not..yeah ill throw up the flag too.
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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Thanks for all the help all. While I am not sure exactly what I am going to do yet, I don't think I will be supercharging. Just seems too risky, and maybe a little more than I really want to get out of this car. For now I am going to keep it basic. I might consider and intake/throttle body/1.6RRs in the future.

Dynotech Dynaspark Distributor
Very informative article about optis and this unit here.

Plugs and Wires

Jet Hot Coated Hooker Longtube Headers w/ O2 bungs pre-welded
Kinda using this page as a guide. I am a bit confused regarding the PCM, EGR and O2 Sensors. Once I go to LT's, does this mean I have to reprogram the PCM to support no EGR? Do I need to reprogram the PCM if I am using Cats and O2 extensions? Are high flow cats going to kill my gains/sound?

Some kind of high flow CATs -
Suggestions?

3" Y Pipe. - Suggestions?

GMMG Exhaust System
Subframe Connectors –
Bolt ons from SLP (Don’t want to weld on the car)
Strut Tower Brace

I would appreciate any/all input on things I am missing or should be considering or reconsidering.

Thanks.

If your just lookin to dust LS1, Longtubes, 1.6rr, !cats!, free mods, a straight through design muffler and CAI with do the trick.

With hooker LTs, SLP TOTL, home made CAI( i dumped the SS intake), 1.6rr, lt4KM, i ran 12.8s@111 and had no problems with any ls1 i ever came accross.


But if your looking for non invasive and stll power, check out nutech (if there still around) or competition motorsports and buy a crate motor built for boost (with warantee )and then a blower or STS kit with 6-10 psi.

You can keep your perfect lil stock engine on a stand un-molested, and just drop in a new motor ready to go with no worries. Problem is thats the $$$$$way to go. Good luck



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