T56 Rebuild Underway!
T56 Rebuild Underway!
Hello all,
I've seen a few posts over the years about people rebuilding their T56 transmissions that have caught my interest. Since my reverse synchro gave up on me a few weeks ago, I somehow convinced myself it would be a good thing to try. Soooo...I made a little roadtrip down to D&D today to get the ball rolling. I came home with a billet 3-4 shift fork, a synchro rebuild kit, a complete bearing kit, reverse synchro keys, springs and retainer (not included in kit), input and output shaft seals and a shim kit. Even more fun, I convinced a machinist that worked for me during the summer to make me an endplay tool for FREE! I've got the transmission mostly ready to come out and expect to be at the rebuild tomorrow morning (and yes, I will document every step). Think I can do it in a day? I've never tackled a T56 before, but I'm feeling courageous.
For now, here are some pictures of the parts I picked up today:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_31_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_33_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_34_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_35_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_36_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_37_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_38_full.jpg
I've seen a few posts over the years about people rebuilding their T56 transmissions that have caught my interest. Since my reverse synchro gave up on me a few weeks ago, I somehow convinced myself it would be a good thing to try. Soooo...I made a little roadtrip down to D&D today to get the ball rolling. I came home with a billet 3-4 shift fork, a synchro rebuild kit, a complete bearing kit, reverse synchro keys, springs and retainer (not included in kit), input and output shaft seals and a shim kit. Even more fun, I convinced a machinist that worked for me during the summer to make me an endplay tool for FREE! I've got the transmission mostly ready to come out and expect to be at the rebuild tomorrow morning (and yes, I will document every step). Think I can do it in a day? I've never tackled a T56 before, but I'm feeling courageous.
For now, here are some pictures of the parts I picked up today:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_31_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_33_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_34_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_35_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_36_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_37_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_38_full.jpg
I'm going to hang on to the endplay tool for now...I've got a few more transmissions to do if this one goes successfully. It's honestly a pretty easy tool to machine though. Any machine shop should be able to make it for you pretty cheaply. When I talked to the guys at D&D, they said they don't even use the endplay tool anymore...they can just set the shims by feel.
As far as the rebuild manual goes, it's available for download on D&D's website for free. It seems to be very thorough. I'm excited to get started at this project.
As far as the rebuild manual goes, it's available for download on D&D's website for free. It seems to be very thorough. I'm excited to get started at this project.
Oh no! Disaster Strikes! After dismantling the transmission, the synchro teeth on my reverse gear are all chewed up. Anyone know where I could get a new reverse gear before the new year? I go back to school on the 3rd...
Also, I wouldn't mind a second opinion. It looks to me like the leading edges of the synchro teeth are too rounded over. What do you think?
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_40_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_40_full.jpg
Well, I've completely disassembled my transmission now and here is my final diagnosis (not exactly what I was expecting to find):
1. Isolator cup is loose in rear offset lever. I have a new isolator cup. If it does not fit tightly, I will need a new rear offset lever assembly.
2. Reverse gear synchro teeth are chewed off/rounded over on leading edge. This explains the constant popping out of reverse/grinding shifting into reverse. I will need to replace the reverse gear.
3. Reverse gear synchro hub teeth are also chewed away/rounded over on leading edge. I will need to replace the reverse synchro hub.
4. This one I didn't expect...several 5th gear synchro teeth are broken off. This might explain why I couldn't shift into fifth gear trying to pass on a few occasions. Fifth gear must be replaced. EDIT: It turns out my fifth gear synchronizer sleeve was also shot...which became yet another delay.
5. 1-2 synchro blocker ring teeth are worn out. Blocker rings, synchro keys and retainer springs must be replaced...these parts I actually have.
6. Bearing races in front adapter are scored. The associated bearings and races must be replaced...these parts I also have.
7. All shift fork pads are fairly well worn. I will replace the shift fork pads.
All in all, I'm pretty disappointed. I really wanted to have this transmission rebuilt and installed by the end of Christmas day. Due to lack of replacement parts, I can't continue with the rebuild until after the holiday. I find it somewhat amusing that most of the typical rebuild parts that I bought aren't even necessary...the majority of the synchros and bearings are fine. I will replace everything anyhow just for peace of mind. Tomorrow I'll go at all the parts with solvent and compressed air, and assemble up until I need 5th gear.
Merry Christmas to everyone!
1. Isolator cup is loose in rear offset lever. I have a new isolator cup. If it does not fit tightly, I will need a new rear offset lever assembly.
2. Reverse gear synchro teeth are chewed off/rounded over on leading edge. This explains the constant popping out of reverse/grinding shifting into reverse. I will need to replace the reverse gear.
3. Reverse gear synchro hub teeth are also chewed away/rounded over on leading edge. I will need to replace the reverse synchro hub.
4. This one I didn't expect...several 5th gear synchro teeth are broken off. This might explain why I couldn't shift into fifth gear trying to pass on a few occasions. Fifth gear must be replaced. EDIT: It turns out my fifth gear synchronizer sleeve was also shot...which became yet another delay.
5. 1-2 synchro blocker ring teeth are worn out. Blocker rings, synchro keys and retainer springs must be replaced...these parts I actually have.
6. Bearing races in front adapter are scored. The associated bearings and races must be replaced...these parts I also have.
7. All shift fork pads are fairly well worn. I will replace the shift fork pads.
All in all, I'm pretty disappointed. I really wanted to have this transmission rebuilt and installed by the end of Christmas day. Due to lack of replacement parts, I can't continue with the rebuild until after the holiday. I find it somewhat amusing that most of the typical rebuild parts that I bought aren't even necessary...the majority of the synchros and bearings are fine. I will replace everything anyhow just for peace of mind. Tomorrow I'll go at all the parts with solvent and compressed air, and assemble up until I need 5th gear.
Merry Christmas to everyone!
Last edited by RestoRoc89; Jan 5, 2007 at 01:00 AM.
Well folks, I'm finally finished this project!
To be brief with the pictures, the transmission went from this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_41_full.jpg
To this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_42_full.jpg
To, finally, this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_43_full.jpg
I found the actual rebuild rather interesting and have taken pictures of nearly every step. If anyone needs help with this chore/would like a picture, feel free to ask.
Obtaining the parts for the rebuild, on the other hand, was a phenominal hassle. Here are the issues I ran into:
1. I tried to purchase gears and synchros from Rockland Standard Gear. They had the parts in stock and their website clearly suggests that customers outside the US should pay with a credit card. However, when I called to order, a representative said that only bank wire transfers are accepted--impossible to do when banks are closed around Christmas time. I cannot recommend RSG based on my experience. AutoGear in Syracuse, NY provided excellent service and had my parts on my doorstep the next day.
2. D&D neglected to include several critical bearing/race combinations in my bearing kit and gave me a few parts that certainly don't belong in a T56.
Nonetheless, I'm thrilled to be finished and can't wait to get this (along with a new 12 bolt and aluminum driveshaft) in the car. If you can read, have a clean workspace and are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on some shop tools, this is a very doable project.
EDIT: If you wonder how I got the case so clean, I media blasted it. I first tried aluminum-safe solvents, but those just made a horrible mess. I discovered the case casting has way too much zinc content and the chemicals turned it black.
To be brief with the pictures, the transmission went from this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_41_full.jpg
To this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_42_full.jpg
To, finally, this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...63_43_full.jpg
I found the actual rebuild rather interesting and have taken pictures of nearly every step. If anyone needs help with this chore/would like a picture, feel free to ask.
Obtaining the parts for the rebuild, on the other hand, was a phenominal hassle. Here are the issues I ran into:
1. I tried to purchase gears and synchros from Rockland Standard Gear. They had the parts in stock and their website clearly suggests that customers outside the US should pay with a credit card. However, when I called to order, a representative said that only bank wire transfers are accepted--impossible to do when banks are closed around Christmas time. I cannot recommend RSG based on my experience. AutoGear in Syracuse, NY provided excellent service and had my parts on my doorstep the next day.
2. D&D neglected to include several critical bearing/race combinations in my bearing kit and gave me a few parts that certainly don't belong in a T56.
Nonetheless, I'm thrilled to be finished and can't wait to get this (along with a new 12 bolt and aluminum driveshaft) in the car. If you can read, have a clean workspace and are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on some shop tools, this is a very doable project.
EDIT: If you wonder how I got the case so clean, I media blasted it. I first tried aluminum-safe solvents, but those just made a horrible mess. I discovered the case casting has way too much zinc content and the chemicals turned it black.
Last edited by RestoRoc89; Jan 5, 2007 at 01:29 AM.
Just put down the R/C controller! lol. I spent less than $500 for everything for my tranny (steel fork, billet sliders, synchro kit, and bearing kit.) The manual states that you shouldn't replace the bearings at all unless they are bad. I didn't know this and purchased the bearing kit and ended up not using it. BTW I got all my parts from www.thegearbox.org.
Later,
Shaun
My transmission was a bit more of an investment due to the amount of damage. I ended up buying a synchronizer rebuild kit, a bearing kit, a billet 3-4 fork, reverse gear, the reverse synchro, fifth gear, the 5-6 synchro, a urethane mount, and a new inspection cover. The total is somewhere around $1200--still far cheaper than buying a new transmission and I know it's done right. I used a 20 ton shop press and a home made gear puller.
As far as not replacing the bearings, there's no way I was going to go to all the trouble of tearing down the transmission and not replace them. I'm the type of person that likes that piece of mind.
As far as not replacing the bearings, there's no way I was going to go to all the trouble of tearing down the transmission and not replace them. I'm the type of person that likes that piece of mind.


