Hey this may sound like a bad idea but me and a friend of mine with a 98 6spd ram air were talking the other day and got on the subject of shifting the car without a clutch. We both can do it at rpms over 2000. we were just wondering how bad that is on the trans, obviously it will help cluth life but it sounded like a bad idea to us, for the trans. sake.

 

If your rpms match up correctly and you're not grinding gears, it shouldn't hurt anything, but I don't really know for sure. Semi drivers frequently do this to keep from clutching. Not sure of the effects on an f-bod though.

 

Yeah i wouldn't advise you to keep doing that. Thats not the best thing you can do for you tranny. They put that clutch there for a reason. So make sure you use it if your gonna shift. If you don't wanna use it then i recommend going to an auto. Usually it will make a griding noise if you don't press the clutch in. But then again i never wanted to try it so i coudn't tell you if it does it on these cars or not.

 

to ease your concience i only did it twice but there was no grinding noise so thats why we were curious my father was the first on who told me it could be done so naturally i had to try once.

 

If you match revs properly, it will not hurt anything. Some engines are much easier to perform this maneuver on than others. My engine revs too easily, so matching revs takes much more time than a clutched shift. If you hear grinding, you're doing more harm than good, but done correctly, clutchless shifting won't hurt. It's more like a trick than something useful on our cars though.

 

i have no trouble matching revs its simply having over 2000 rpms and its the same thing with my friends car. it works for driving around town if it dosent hurt things but its not good for racing from my exp.

 

well i guess you learn something everyday. I never new you could do that. I'm still not gonna try it, but now i know you can.

 

hey drewstealth i was looking at your mods and was wandering what a trick flow elbow was im looking to get rid of the elbow on the car now nore importantly the plastic piece that drops in front of the motor.

 

when I first bought my car I couldnt drive stick very well, and I went to my godaughters birthday and one of her uncles was tellin me he could teach me alot of tricks if I wanted, hes a truck driver and says he drives miles around in traffic and never uses the clutch

 

I learned to drive stick on my old bosses Bronco II. What a POS. He showed me that one day on the 3rd to fourth shift. With a little practice i got to the point that i wouldn't have to use the clutch for anything but pulling out. It's a lot of fun and people are amazed when you don't use the clutch. It's definitly easier on some cars then others. IMO it doesn't hurt a thing except when you screw up and grind the gears, which you will. It's just a 'trick' though and I don't do it on my car since i'll be the one paying for the new trans

-brent

 

Its just an aftermarket intake elbow. Its just like the vortech elbow. But i think its a little better. It is ceramic coated and it doesn't have to be modified to fit(depends on what CAI though) like the vortech does. Also the vortech has a divider in it. Not sure if that helps. It looks real nice imo. But unless yours is ripped then i would just plug up the hole where the platic peice goes with a shampoo bottle cap or something. If it is ripped and you want something that looks better then the stock rubber one, then i recommend getting one.

 

Where do i get the elbow if i want one and how much does it cost?
thanks

 

I drive a 18 wheeler. Anyone one who does only uses the clutch to get rolling. But tractors have strait cut gears (to my knowledge) and shift differently. Everytime you up shift a tractor you let off gas pull it out of gear and put in the next gear while the rpms are going down. If you want to down shift you let the truck slow down then take it out of gear rev the motor up to the sweet spot and pop it back in. You could probably do this in a car but i dont see why you would.

 

Got it from summit. I think it was like $70-80. Something like that.

 

That's exactly how I do it. Doesn't serve any purppose other than freaking out the passenger. Keeps your left leg from getting tired sometimes too. When you want to get after it though you'd better clutch it.