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Old May 19, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

I need a posi unit for my 96 Z28, and was wondering if a posi unit from a 2000 WS6 Trans Am could be used. It only has 50K miles on it.

I'm not sure if the one from the TA is a Torsen unit or not, thus the question.

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Old May 19, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Probably get better results in "Drivetrain" forum. I'll move the thread there for you.
Old May 20, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Can't say with absolute certainty, but I have seen articles on upgrading the Torsen with a heavy duty Eaton limited slip, and they used the same Eaton part # as used in an earlier (Auburn) conversion.

Reference article - shows a late model T/A with a Torsen diff:

Strengthening The Rearend From An LS1 Firebird Formula - High Performance Pontiac Magazine

Eaton Makes A Heavy Duty Posi Great For Street And Street Duties - High Performance Pontiac Magazine Page 2

Photo showing Torsen and Eaton side-by-side:

http://www.highperformancepontiac.co.../photo_03.html

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Old May 20, 2014 | 07:47 PM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

A 2000 WS6 Trans Am would have had a Torsen off/from the assembly line. Since it went to SLP from off the line,it could have been changed/upgraded to an Auburn or Eaton. Removing the cover would tell.
But to answer the original question,any of the possible three would be a compatible replacement for into yours. Since you'd be replacing the carrier only,you wouldn't have to worry/be concerned with/about pinion depth. Lash would be the only concern.
Old May 21, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

I thought the axle shafts were different between the Torsen and the Auburn?
Old May 22, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

What matters for carriers is axle spline count which is 28 for 4th gen f-bods.
Axle shafts are different for channel systems,3 channel ABS axles are different from 4 channel ABS & Traction Control axles.
Auburn,Torsen,and Eaton carriers for 4th gens have 28 spline axle acceptance.
Old May 23, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Thanks for all the information. I bought the unit anyways. For $80, what the heck.

I forgot to ask......will the ABS tone ring bolt up to any differential / carrier?

I hope so.....
Old May 23, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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the ABS reluctor ring doesn't bolt on,it's pressed onto the carrier.
the ABS ring will go onto Auburn,Torsen and Eaton.

you never mentioned/asked about gear ratios in regards to carriers.
Automatics with 2.73s' would be on a 2 series carrier,with 3.23s' a 3 series carrier. M6s' would be 3.42 on a 3 series carrier. 2 and 3 series carriers require different ABS reluctor rings.
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Looks like I'll need a 3series tone ring then. I have a 2.73 auto rear. I bought a 3.42 gear diff from a 2000 TA. Where do I get a tone ring? GM?
Old May 25, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Does the 3.42 still have the reluctor gear installed? If the 3.42 was in a traction control option car, it wouldn't have the ring in the first place, but an ABS only car would.

It's a very slight interference fit, and they can be damaged very easily.
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both rings have been long obsoleted and not available from GM or other source for years now.
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Fred,

No reluctor gear / tone ring. My 96 Z28 has both ABS & Traction control (ARS). Are you saying that my car may not have a reluctor??
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A 96 Z28 with ABS & TC/ASR is 4 channel and would have/has a ring on each axle.

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Old May 25, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

Folks,

Great info, I appreciate it!

So...my car has the tone rings on each axle and NOT on the carrier...is that what you're saying?

Thanks

Mike
Old May 26, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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Re: Rear Posi from 2000 WS6 TA compatibility

A 3 channel ABS,not changed since it left the assembly line,would have a 106 tooth reluctor ring on the carrier. A 4 channel ABS & TC/ASR,not changed since it left the assembly line,would have a 47 tooth reluctor ring on each axle.



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