Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula

ackman - My response was not directed at you, and I didn't want to single out the other guy so I tried to make a general post for all. But since people get defensive, let me restate it a little more ignorantly. I hate when people jump into a thread they don't belong in to post crap they don't know anything about. If brahm had ever talked to or dealt with Frank then he would not have made the dumb choice to go elsewhere and more then likely pay more and get less. Trust me I read your post, and it was covered by Frank, it's just there was no need for a bonehead newbe to jump into a thread and talk smack on a board sponsor. This was the point of my post, again nothing about you, just making a general statement backing up Frank since this other guy jumped in backing you up. Just look out for who speaks for you, and I know who will speak for Frank...

Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula

Per Fred's request I will do my best to respond in a civil tongue/type.

You are correct I did refered to you as a newb based on your limited time on this site and post count. What you have done in the past has no bearing on being new to a community, and that is what these forums are. So if you moved into a new housing development, where there is a housing association, and community meetings would you think that since you have owned other houses for 30 years you should not be considered the new guy? Hey, I'm glad you have such good experiances, hopefully you will be able to share it with the rest of the community. But I still don't see a reason for you, or anyone jumping into a post that is being handled by the 2 responsible parties, just to take an additional stab at one of them. That won't work in any community or business for that matter, I can't see you going into work and seeing a vender and a coworker working out their differences just so you can take the phone and put a few jabs in on the vendor, your @$$ would be fired, right?

The quote of mine that you didn't like holds true, you have not spoken to Frank, by your own admission, and you made the choice to go elsewhere, and as a result you will more then likely get less for the money, and this is the truth (a fact if you will). I was in no way busting your *****, just stating a fact. I admit the word dumb should not have been added, but I wanted to drive home the worth of getting a hold of Frank. But the statement still stands, if you had talked to Frank then you would not have made the choice to go elsewhere, more then likely resulting in paying more to get less out of it.

As for your comments towards me, I will brush them off because you know even less about me then you think. But I will say in response to your paragraph following the list of facts, I am not letting my personal feelings for a friend cloud anything, let alone my judgement. I didn't just sit there and belitle you, and if you felt that way they there may be a bit of a guilty concience going on, and as such you probably feel you did do something wrong. You made the choices you had to, and if there were many others in your shoes they too could have done the same thing, and since it was your choice, then be happy with that choice. Although it does not appear that you are happy with the choice of going elsewhere or why when people are working out there differences did you feel it was need to throw out another jab like some school kid trying to provoke a fight? This was a post made to get in contact with Frank and for the 2 parties to work out any issues, not a lets all jump on Frank post. So here is where my friendship comes in, you can do whatever you want with your car and money, it's yours, have fun with it. But if your a newb, which you are to the community, and jump into something like this to start flaming someone, other people will jump in to get their back and the topic goes way off course just as this one did. I am glad Frank and John can work out these issues, and glad that Frank realizes his deficiencies in dealing with communication to his customers, but was all this other stuff needed, was there a reason to jump into this post to attack Frank when the issues were being settled? The simple answer is, NO, and this is more then likely why you have the guilty concience and got all upset in the comments above, defending your actions...



Hey Fred, how about closing this since the main topic appears to be resolved???