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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

The car has been disabled for likely, 5 months now. It is suffering from the imfamouse P1870 Code "Slipping Transmission Component" and grenades on the 1st to 2nd shift. Now the car barely runs (other reasons than the Transmission.) Well we REALLY don't need the car. We have 3 more operatable vehicles but just for the heck of it I decided I'd like to rebiuld the car as a Show Car as it was my first true "Graduation" car... The transmission is going to have to be one of the first things fixxed however. If time and money were of no option, would it be a feasable project for me to take apart and self rebiuld a transmission? Or is there more in-debth (Special Tools, Critical Tourque Settings, ect ect...) that I need to know? If I rebiuld it myself would I be saving any money over a transmission shop? I was also going to of course throw in a shift-kit while I was at it and aswell as a Stall Converter while the tranny was out...

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Option A - Fun Learning Experience, Rebiuld the A4 yourself as the car doesn't have to be on it's wheels anytime soon.

Option B - Walker Transmission will rebiuld it for $1,200 ... Take it to them...

Option C - You already have 3 operatable cars and you're wasting your time on THIS P.O.S ?!
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

theres no way in hell I would EVER rebuild an automatic electronically controlled tranny without having done it before unless you have a friend who knows his **** and is willing to help
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

Get it professionaly rebuilt. It's not worth the time and effort you will spend to end up only with a 200 pound paper weight.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

I watched some fellow racers swap a manual valve body (new), onto my 700R4 (new), back in 2002. I could not believe the complexity. This was referred to by all as a simple swap, but by the end we had the PA at Norwalk calling out for help from other teams to complete the job and this wasn't a rebuild, it was simply a swap... Basically the valve body reminded me of a very complex version of the childs game wheer you need to navigate a ball bearing through a maze without it falling into a hole.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Take it to a professional.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro
The car has been disabled for likely, 5 months now. It is suffering from the imfamouse P1870 Code "Slipping Transmission Component" and grenades on the 1st to 2nd shift. Now the car barely runs (other reasons than the Transmission.) Well we REALLY don't need the car. We have 3 more operatable vehicles but just for the heck of it I decided I'd like to rebiuld the car as a Show Car as it was my first true "Graduation" car... The transmission is going to have to be one of the first things fixxed however. If time and money were of no option, would it be a feasable project for me to take apart and self rebiuld a transmission? Or is there more in-debth (Special Tools, Critical Tourque Settings, ect ect...) that I need to know? If I rebiuld it myself would I be saving any money over a transmission shop? I was also going to of course throw in a shift-kit while I was at it and aswell as a Stall Converter while the tranny was out...

Basically

Option A - Fun Learning Experience, Rebiuld the A4 yourself as the car doesn't have to be on it's wheels anytime soon.

Option B - Walker Transmission will rebiuld it for $1,200 ... Take it to them...

Option C - You already have 3 operatable cars and you're wasting your time on THIS P.O.S ?!
Take the 1,200 go get a decent carbed 350 with a th350 and stick that in
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

A little looking can get you a stock LT1/4l60e for that 1200...

or drop 200 on a junkyard trans
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

Originally Posted by Birdman7389
A little looking can get you a stock LT1/4l60e for that 1200...

or drop 200 on a junkyard trans
As in LT1 and an A4 together for $1,200? Or just the Tranny? If it's just the Tranny I don't the it will bolt to the 3.8, different Bellhousings...

I'll take the advice on this thread and have it proffessionally rebiult...
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

How about a Muncie M21? A friend of mine is putting one behind a TT327.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

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How about a Muncie M21? A friend of mine is putting one behind a TT327.
More info? I'm a nimwhit when it comes to tranny's... Is it a 4 Speed and will it bolt to a 3.8? I'm not sure if I'm going to keep the 3.8 or not, I'll probably drop a SBC 427 into it just to be alittle unique (I never saw much point in dropping a 350 into a V6 car when you could just pick up an LT1 at the local dealership...) ... What will it bolt up to and how much can I pick one up for? How much HP can it handle?
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

Heck now that I'm on the subject of transmissions... I drove my mother's Caddillac CTS around and it has an Automatic 5 Speed and that thing feels hella tourqy despite it only has 220 HP... I believe it's because the gearing and the tranny is able to keep the car closer to it's range of power due to it having five gears...

Anyone know any spec's on some A5's I might beable to use?
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

I was wondering how hard it would be to rebuild a M21. I wasn't suggesting you put one in.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

Originally Posted by SantaCruz163
How about a Muncie M21? A friend of mine is putting one behind a TT327.
I've got a pretty strong 327 in my firebird bored .30 over, good motors and it was a v6 to v8 swap
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

Eh, when I put a shift kit into my old camaro I had to pull out the valve body and after seeing all the little check ***** and crap in there I decided I will never again do anything to a auto tranny other then fluid change.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Ganna attempt to rebiuld an A4 Tranny out of a 3.8, what am I getting into?

You wont find a 5 speed auto for your 3.8.

The 1200 I said earlier could get you an LT1 AND an auto trans......



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