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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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clutch will not disengage -help cars stuck

just put a new clutch in my car today everything went ok but when i went to start it the pedal felt fine and i cranked it over and its like the pressure plate is just rubbing the disc or something, the fork is all the way onto the throw out bearing but it wont stay running, i need anyones suggestions thanks
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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is it possible that u put on the disc backwards? So does the clutch disengage?
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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thats the only thing i can think of everything is perfect but theres no way for me to see the disk without pulling the tranny so i guess ill have to look at it

but when i crank it up it struggles sort of then it idles like its straining and you can hear it rubbing and pressing the clutch in does nothing for the noise

thanks for tha help i guess ill ****in pull the trans back out. . .
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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well i pulled the trans back out and everyting is perfect and the disc is in right, but the pressure plate was rubbing up against the back part of the bellhousing..... how much torque should the pressure plate bolts be torqed down to, the haynes manual said 15 ft lbs but that is kinda light and the pp was definatly rubbing the bellhousing on the back side of the pp

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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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i used a dial caliper on all the edges of the pressure plate and they seem to be equal with the old pressure plate, i cant figure out why its rubbing the bellhousing....
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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ok i bought another new clutch just because i thought that one might be f'd up.

Bolted the pressure plate down with the disc properly installed, torqed the bolts a tiny bit tighter then 15 ft lbs, but i just made sure it was flush with the flywheel and tight

pushed the fork back onto the release bearing and bolted the slave cylinder down

cranked the car back up and it is still making a hard enough rubbing noise to severly bog the engine down, coming from the clutch area...

if anyone has any suggestions for me please tell me im starting to get tired of pulling my transmission out
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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ok i just pulled the fork down to look inside and when i pulled it out there are some rubbing marks on the fork where it has been rubbing on the backside of the pressure plate.... when i look at my old pp it has the same rub marks but not nearly as bad... has anyone ever heard of the pp rubbing the fork like this, cause mine wasnt doing this before
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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hmm, maybe the clutch fork got bent somehow? Thats the onlu way i could see it rubing on the pressure plate, it the fork pivot bolt tight? it it riding on the throwout bearing?
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Re: clutch will not disengage -help cars stuck

OMG I am having the exact freaking problem that you are? Did you find a solution to this problem?

Mine is even a step worse, I purchase a new clutch and I install it and now I have no room to move the release bearing. I go to press the clutch and it wont budge, I have removed the clutch and pressure plate twice and with the same results.

I just have no clue what to do next? HELP ME
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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the clutch fork is loose, happened to me, tighten it up and put locktite on the bolt, everytime i tried to push the clutch in it made a hideous grinding noise until i ultimately could not push the pedal in anymore and had to get the car towed home b/c i tried to push the clutch in and stalled the car.
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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I wish that was the problem, I have tighten the hell out of it, now with the new clutch in I cannot even engage the clutch far enough to even start the car.

Its like it already engaged, but I pulled the tranny and everything looks good!

I am going to replace the clutch fork its my only hope................
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Re: clutch will not disengage -help cars stuck

did you change the hydraulics out when you changed the clutch?
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Re: clutch will not disengage -help cars stuck

Changed them last fall, since the rod connecting the hydraulics to the clutch pedal was bent.

The interesting thing is when the fork is installed on the release bearing there is no room for the clutch fork to move. the clutch pedal wont move because the hydraulics are at their max.

I guess I am trying to say the clutch fork is all the way forward, and making contact with the pressure plate, before I even install the hydraulics. Its kind of my original problem to the extreame, I used to be able to press in on the clutch and the clutch fork would rub the pressure plate, but now it just touches the pressure plate with out the hydraulics installed.

Hope I am making sence, but I feel like doing a swan dive off a cliff right now.

Does anybody have a close up pic of the clutch fork, On mine there is some considerable wear where the clutch fork touches the release bearing.

Keep the suggestions coming, that way I dont feel all alone with this issue LOL
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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maybe it is bent, when i put my clutch fork on the t/o bearing the end that you can see where the hydraulics hook up sticks out way to the back towards the rear end, does yours do that? i know i hooked mine up a couple times wrong and it looks like its on there right, but the bottom part of the fork sits flush with the bellhousing
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Yeah thats what I am thinking, something has to be wrong with the clutch fork (I hope).

When I push the clutch fork on to the release bearing, I have taken a flash light and looked to see that the fork fingers were in the correct posistion on the the release bearing, but once in that posistion there is no room for the fork to move, it basically dead nuts touching the pressure plate.

I guess I am going to replace the fork and get rid of the obvious.

My thinking is that with the old clutch after being smoked, we could press in on the clutch and the clutch fork would rub on the pressure plate, now that I have replaced the clutch the clutch fork hits the pressure plate without pushing in on the clutch.

I am assuming with a new clutch the clutch plate is thicker causing the the release bearing to be closer to the transmision and this is just close enough that my clutch fork is now hitting the pressure plate, without pressing in on the clutch. One the old clutch the pressure plate was thinner which brings the resting place of the release bearing closer to the motor which still allowed the clutch fork angle to move the bearing, but grind against the pressure plate when the clutch was pressed.

I will order the clutch for today and i will keep you posted



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