Tom, congratulations! As far as I am concerned, you now own the record.

Anybody can swap to a carb-style intake manifold with fuel injection if they want. The LT1 intake manifold IS a restriction. There are better designs available.

 

oh yeah, I would love to see a video of your car in action if anybody has it?

 

Thanks, as soon as my un-technical self can figure out how to download the vids I'll get them up and the timeslips.

 

Tom if you need help with the technology stuff let me know I can see what I can do to help you out...

 

Congratulations Tom!

I say you should put the FI back on and click off some 11.60s to silence everyone.

You've put a lot of work into this and deserve the timeslip; unofficial record or not. Good for you!

Scott

 

Please don't take my comments as detrimental or derogatory. I think what you've accomplished is out standing!

However it's also meaningless. A couple of magazine editors does not constitute and Official Body of anything!!
Did you set this "record" at an Official Sanctioned event? Were there other competitors there? Were the editors of GM High Tech Mag. there? Did they sanction the timing apparatus? Did they record this "record" in any kind of historical log? Did you get a "Tech Inspection" (for this "class") before you ran? Would Guinness World Records put this in their book?
If I literally, strip my car down to nothing but a drivetrain and drivers seat, and then beat your time, do I win? See what I mean?

Also, when people talk about FI being better then Carbs, they are NOT talking about WOT 1/4 mile runs.

 

The track is probably NHRA or IHRA sanctioned. Had GMHTP editors been there, they probably would have given him credit AND given him hell for ditching fuel injection like everybody else is.

Why are so many people criticizing Tom? He is obviously more familiar with carbs, so he converted his car to utilize one. Anybody could do the same, ubt they wouldn't automatically run better. It is pretty common for higher power LT1s to change their intake manifolds out to a single plane or sheetmetal. There is simply more power to be extracted with a better intake manifold design.

If you think it is so easy, then go ahead and strip down your car and outrun him.

 

See you hit the nail on the head. It's not the carb that made the difference it's the manifold.

 

This quote here, may be the one most people should pay closest attention to regarding what was accomplished.

This isn't NASCAR, and the only way likely everybody would be happy is if the exact same mods were done to every single fbody, then shoot it out, it would come down to driver, track conditions, weather, tailwind, etc.

But that isn't the case. Non-power adder, stock internal (rotating assembly & heads), in an fbody. Do the most you can meeting that criteria, and who finishes first? I think those times are sick considering I am having fits just getting a 12-anything out of my own fbody.

Jealousy perhaps? I know I am a little!

 

Fantastic job there Tom. You and 1slowformula are doing great. I enjoy seeing that the LT1 really has alot on the table from the factory. I haven't added any power yet to mine and I see some better times in it still on the table.

 

congrats tom! but like many others i will agree that its unoffical... u really cant change the entire intake and expect it to still be a bolt on only car... but with what u did is amazing.... 11.70? like OMFG! good luck on any future goals... i give u all the credit in the world for your setup and times...

but i have to agree with john, shon still holds the offical record...

 

Camaro12 et all,

I also don't think the intent of the rules was to gut a car down to the bare bones to the point it resembles a stripped recovery vehicle, nor run open headers or have the cars to not be street legal either. My car has a full interior with carpeting (except backseat), full exhaust system, bolt-on hood, I run on street tires (not slicks) and I drive my car to the track unlike those cars who have previously been faster than me. Do you see me complaining or adding exceptions to thier performance? They chose the route they did and I chose mine.

I've had plenty of conversations regarding my intake choice and the vast majority have said "Use it, but your not going to get the type of performance your expecting" Heck I even spoke to a person from GM High Tech and they said the same thing.

Honestly, if a person built a car specific to do this feat, the car could easily go 11.50's to 11.40's (maybe lower) without being overly exotic and still resemble a factory f-body and I'm not talking taking extreme weight measures into the equation. However its getting harder to find low mileage lt1 engines floating around and the "why bother" factor comes into play.

I'd like to thank all the well wishers and for the people who have called and thanked me that route.

Shon, its time to update your website. lol

 

ok i first off congradulated u on ur accomplishment.... my car is full interior, a/c, erg, air, radio is all still in it also... and i drive my car to and from the track week in and week out and my car is a summer DD i drive it everywhere... so i agree with u on that...

but bottom line is a 1993-1997 F-Body did not come from the factory with a carb setup, therefore u did not break the bolt on record... but u did achieve something no one even thought was possible... i really think its amazing

 

But, these cars also didn't come with roller rockers(except LT4's), 12 bolt rears, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshafts, larger bore throttle bodies, 255lph fuel pumps wired properly, modified PROMS/flash programs, 3600rpm stall converters, etc.

Why draw the line with a simple manifold/carb swap vice all these other modificiations? It isn't a sheetmetal or single plane high-rise intake with a dominator. Also, what about the guys that converted to coil-per cylinder? That wasn't factory equipment either. Or drag radials/slicks?

I think the fbody world needs a sanctioned "bolt-on" fbody shootout.
I also think it would be funny, if this said shootout had more than one class, lol!

 

I like the idea.