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Hot Cam'd 00 Z28 runs 13.70 @111.XX w/ a 3.0 60' What should it be?

Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Hot Cam'd 00 Z28 runs 13.70 @111.XX w/ a 3.0 60' What should it be?

I was just trying to "correct" a buddy of mine's E.T.
He has a 2000 A4 Z28. He has a Lid, 3.73's, Mac Headers, Off Road Pipe, Trans-Go, Loudmouth Catback, Hot Cam, PCM4LESS Tuning, Free Mods, and Street Tires
ANyways, we lined up one time at the track, and he ran 13.70 @ 111 w/ a 3.0 60'
He is hoping for a mid-high 12 when he puts on some ET Streets.
I was telling him that with the traps he is pulling, he should have a mid-low LOW 12 second timeslip....
does this sound right?
Just wondering if I am trippin or not!
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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he needs some driving lessions... bad. with that mph it should run mid low 12s with tractions. a 3.0 60 foot it horriable. that should be around 2.0 on street tires.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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it is possible to pull under 2.0 on street tires. that mph is no low to mid 12's. 111mph is low to mid 13's. i bet with traction he pulls a 13.3 at 111mph or 112mph. stock ls1's trap 105-107 all day and they run 13.3-13.7
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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i ran a 12.39 @ 111 with a 1.82 60 foot.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by CASPER97TA
it is possible to pull under 2.0 on street tires. that mph is no low to mid 12's. 111mph is low to mid 13's. i bet with traction he pulls a 13.3 at 111mph or 112mph. stock ls1's trap 105-107 all day and they run 13.3-13.7
No, 111mph will get you low 12's with a set of ET Streets. I have gone a best of 12.700 at 111.xx with a 1.82 60'. With a 60' in the 1.7 range it should be low-12's.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by CASPER97TA
it is possible to pull under 2.0 on street tires. that mph is no low to mid 12's. 111mph is low to mid 13's. i bet with traction he pulls a 13.3 at 111mph or 112mph. stock ls1's trap 105-107 all day and they run 13.3-13.7
With a 111 MPH trap speed that is easily a mid 12 second run with traction.

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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks guys. And yes, he has ZERO traction out there

And Casper, if LS1's trap 107 STOCK and run LOW-MID 13's, then why would you say that a 111 trap is only a low-mid 13?
You are WAY off buddy. But I'm pretty sure you meant something else, didn't you?

Thanks guys for the replys!
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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i got a 1.94 60' on street tires.... eibach pro springs, and m6, also.
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by CASPER97TA
it is possible to pull under 2.0 on street tires. that mph is no low to mid 12's. 111mph is low to mid 13's. i bet with traction he pulls a 13.3 at 111mph or 112mph. stock ls1's trap 105-107 all day and they run 13.3-13.7
Well I just ran a 12.394 @ 109.26 with a 00 Formula A4
2 more MPH would put me at 12.20.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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111 mph trap and only run mid 13's. Damn, if I couldn't drive any better than that I'd set the car on fire with me in it. Seriously, I run 11.9's at 111.xx.

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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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Well first off, why put a hotcam in a LS1?? What was he thinkin'?? His MPH is low for those mods, my buddy went 12.85 110 MPH in a stock 2001 M6 SS Z28 (had a whisper lid), another buddy went 12.15@111 with a 2000 auto Z28 , it had a 4000 converter, full length headers, cutout, whisper lid, LS1 edit, that was on drag radials. As far as 60 ft on real street tires, I have gone a 1.82 on radial T/A's in a 5.0 5 speed stang, so it is possible to 60 ft on streeters if the track is good( it was GOOD that day). Stock LS1's generally MPH in the 105/107 range for auto's and 108/110 for 6 speeds, it seems he is down on power a bit.

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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by aggiez28
wow ive never seen a 3.00 60 foot before, did you take a nap at the light.?

it helps if you have tires on the rear wheels also.

j/k man but seriously thats beyond bad, a 2.0 is a bad 60 ft.


i mean you should be pullin 1.8s at least on a stock car w/ regular street tires.


just work on it and you will improve.

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Read it right buddy.
It's not my car, and it is also FAR FROM stock
Anyways, that was a couple months ago. Since then, he has got his PCM tuned from Bryan @ PCM4LESS and has a cutout now! He also picked up some ET Streets today, so we're in there FOR SURE now!
I told him he is good for a low 12 for sure. He's hoping for a mid 12. We'll see soon!
Thanks for the replies.
Old Oct 11, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by aggiez28
wow ive never seen a 3.00 60 foot before, did you take a nap at the light.?

it helps if you have tires on the rear wheels also.

j/k man but seriously thats beyond bad, a 2.0 is a bad 60 ft.


i mean you should be pullin 1.8s at least on a stock car w/ regular street tires.


just work on it and you will improve.

good luck

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2.0 is a BAD 60' for street tires?? to be honest i have never seen a car on street tires hit a 1.8x.... im sure its possible, i think my car with stock springs/reloc. brackets would be close... if it was an a4 i could pop off a few. but that would be considered a GOOD 60' on street tires!!! not the norm.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by FASTFATBOY
Well first off, why put a hotcam in a LS1?? What was he thinkin'??
David
Umm, there is a Hotcam for the Ls1's......

One of the local guys with a 99 SS runs 12.1 with a 112-115mph with his Hotcam and TTS headers and programming.

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