Thanks to Jason99TA for the link below. Sorry guys there is no N2O on my car & the track is a FULL 1/4 mile here. As for my gain from E-Town till now... TRACTION & weather. Take the time to read ALL my post and you'll get the story. Later this year I hope to make some East Coast events and I'll be happy to let you inspect my TA and line up with me. Sorry folks I have nothing to hide... no sneeky pete hiding in the Grassy Knoll, LOL. At least you guys do doubt my times/mods with class and not just trash talk.
Well gotta run I'm working 7 12's for the next two months... turnaround at the plant... internet time is history for a while.
Hope to meet up with you guys at a strip later this year.
Steve...
http://www.fbodycentral.com/phpBB2/v...er=asc&start=0

 

Amazing how many internet experts are out there.

Based on what I saw on the list you gave me, I don't doubt your times one bit. You're only a cheater because you run in LA in that negative elevation.

 

LOL...thats too funny. Believe me guys..steve is honest about what was done to the car. I help in alot of it. At the mag. shootout he was spinning and DA was around +2xxx. We finally got the car to dead hook and Da was -18xx. Plus he freed up the exhaust(cutout..which wasn't legal for the shootout). Amazing what difference a spinning 1.66 60' compaired to a 1.55 dead hook will do to the et. Not to meantion the 3500-4000 DA difference in the air. Sounds like some people are making excuses for their own setup. Get awesome air on a dead hooking track and watch the times fall. I really love the one about the track clocks needing to be checked...lol. Believe me..NHRA is up to the task on that. I'm sure they checked it when the stock elem. cars set new records there.

 

We have alot of Devil's Advocate and food-for-thought being played and given over there. There are some doubters among the bunch, but for the most part, we're happy an LT1 got into the 11's with bolt-ons. That thread is mostly ideas being spouted off, just so we can settle them in our own minds. We're a bunch of people who are drag-race oriented, so we spend ALOT of time at different tracks, so pretty much everyone there isn't just bench racing. We've all had pleanty of experience, not just internet experience . No one's making excuses, just comparing what was done to what we know (our own times and tracks). We've read the posts (ALL of them ) and know what the situations where. Just throwing out ideas .

Dave
EFA resident

 

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:46 pm Post subject:

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INTIMID8R wrote:
Will keep most of my personal comments to myself (somewhat) other than to say (Quickshot and a few others know how I feel)...Why did it take till 2003 for someone to get 11's with a stock LT1 motor other than rr's (I know why, I think) and we have some LT1's with cams and nitrous doing only a few tenths better...some are comparing his times at Englishtown, but you need to consider most drivers that day where 3-4 tenths off except for? , guess what I am saying is he had the secret (legal or not) then also, and the better weather since has made the difference...He definitely has some serious bolt-on's and comparing his mods to mine I can see him doing what he has done to an extent....He has either hit on a combination that no one else has or he has something not listed..you decide, but we are not hearing the full truth IMO, whether it is modifications, weight (he couldn't hide that at englishtown ), or whatever we don't know everything, and that is part of the game.
Bill

The master has spoken. and in my book Bill is the master of bolton lt1's.
hell even bolt on ls1's.
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I if i recall Bill managed a 12.62 that day with a db level much higher than the rules allowed. I know, coulda, shoulda, woulda, but if I could have been at the track that night with Steve I think I could went 11's in my car too.

 

I can understand the doubt. There are too many internet racers out there not to have some doubt. Steve put in the wrench time and was at the track almost every day it was open trying things/testing and it payed off. Is the car a consistant 11 sec car..heck no. Its is a great air car 11 sec. car. Most every person post their best "one time" times. All you can do the rest of the year is try to improve the car waiting on that perfect day to go for a new best. We haven't even pulled the stock elem. tricks that we have thought about and doubt we will. There are many tricks that we could do that would still leave it a stock motor/heads/cam etc. that would prolly pick the car up another.1 or so. But...if steve does do those you can bet he will share the results and tell you everything he did. YOu can count on that. What you read/hear is what you get with this guy and his car. He set his goals to beat frank W. times..those held for what..2 years? He beat them and at a heavier race weight...just like he wanted. If I could ever get him to lighten the car up for real you guys would freak out. Even at 3500+ lbs he is still a couple hundred lbs heavier than some of the cars at the mag. shootout. I wish someone would beat his time so he would have a new goal to go for.

 

I can tell you that the people that started/replied in that post on EFA are not internet racers. We discuss things on the internet and at the track, but since there are no tracks open here, we're forced to converse online. Doesn't mean we're internet racers...far from it

 

I didn't mean it toward you guys. I meant that the internet as a whole it is too easy for someone you do not know to come and post some steller times. If we accepted everyone for what they said I'm sure we would have some 14 year old kids claiming they have a 8 sec. honda on the street all motor. I was just saying it good to question some things. Hopefully steve can make it out there and race with you guys and ya'll can check the car out.

Tim

 

You mean those kids are lying? .

Yeah I see what you're saying, and agree completely. Good times are gonna get questioned, but that's what keeps people honest . You guys gonna make it out to the North vs. South shootout in Bowling Green, KY? It's in May if I'm not mistaken.

 

having met Stephen out in NJ for the gmhtp shoot I will have to vouch for him

think about the whole thing, it was 96 degrees and 90% humidity in NJ, track was kinda slick

in LA he had god-sent weather, air density of -19xx feet BELOW sea level
he had less weight
he had full slicks
and a track that anyone who has been too says hooks incredibly well (just was on aim w/ pro stock john and he said same)

I'm flat out jealous of the air down there

 

I would so love to line up w/ Stephen, for fun and bragging rights

 

Finally a rag puts together a shootout that has all the 'fast' cars at the same track at the same time and the only rule they had was it be a bolt on and follow the track rules on dB. OK, we have a race...then here comes all the BS of how it sucked and such, NO it did not suck, it was great!!! All the cars that were invited were a good rep on what is going on with the LT1 cars. Even if the loud car could have run the whole day, dont think it would have picked up enough to run 11s or even lower 12s, the day sucked. but they all raced on the same day and the same track, no excuses.

SAR2K, Congrats and sure wish my H/C car would run that well!!!
Greebean, get the car back together!

 

i dont know steven or any of the guys from the EFA, but like has already been said, with a PERFECT day and a prepped track, amazing things can happen.

EX- when i FISRT got my car, i was running it at the track in the dead of summer. i wasnt letting the car cool off like i should and it would always run warm. i was clicking off 14.0s-14.1s. after some reading and research, i figured out that our cars HAVE to be really cool to get the most out of it. that combined with practicing launching and a different set of tires that somehow helped in almost eliminating the wheel hop i was experiencing, led to MUCH better ETs. i was running consitant 13.8s-.9s at around 99-100, STILL in the dead of summer. towards the fall, about 2-3 wks before the track closed, i caught a day that was virtually perfect. i ran a all time best of 13.62 @ 102 and clicked off several other 13.7 passes right after at 101. this was with a BONE STOCK 96 Z A4 with 2.73s on radial tires. i thought, and still do think, that thats pretty amazing for what i had. i havent to this day runt that time again. ive come close a couple of times with some low .7s, but havent seen it again.

i have SEEN myself many LT1 bolt on cars run in the LOW 12s all day. i DO believe that with a perfect day, 11s would be, without a doubt, possible.




jon

 

Is that a yes???

Here's the info for signing up for anyone who wants to go. Shoud be a HUGE event:
http://www.motownmuscle.com/main/NorthvsSouth.php

 

Thanks guys. rasilverbird no problem bud, looks like most of your guys are a class act and cool.But damn working everyday is taking its toll on me... I missed the comments from "INTIMID8R". Are you the guy who got booted for beeing too lound at E-Town??? So I'm not telling the whole truth on my TA??? Damn dude... I truly regret being one of the guys who voted to let you stay & run your car for the article.
Anyway I'll do my best to make the North v. South shootout. fastz28 & myself should be a damn good race. And Russ had you of been at the track here with me that night with your E-Town setup... your 11 sec time slip would have been insane!!!
INTIMID8R ... just bring it.
Steve...