Broke my T56 last night
Went to Cecil last night to make some more tuning passes to try and get the car to run decent. I made 2 full passes. I am still tring to figure out if I am getting false knock so I put some 98 octane race gas in the car but could not find a 3.9k .5 watt resister to disable the knock sensor so I figured I'd try and run it anyway. Here is the breakdown:
First run launched at 5500rpms
60ft 1.730
330ft. 4.967
660ft. 7.679
mph 91.07
1000ft. 10.007
1/4 11.955
mph 116.21
Second run launched the same tried dropping the fuel pressure 5lbs to see what it would do...the car didn't respond well to that by slowing 2 tenths and 2 mph.
60ft. 1.741
330ft. 5.060
660ft. 7.840
mph 89.17
1000ft. 10.213
1/4 12.199
mph 114.02
Thrid run I bumped the fuel pressure 3lbs higher than I initially had it set at and softed the suspension a little. I launched at 6200rpms and SNAP!!! the car stopped moving. I am 99% sure it is the output shaft on the T56. It leaks no fluid, all the gear shift fine, the clutch hydolics still work, but the speedo doesn't work when I put it in gear so all point to the output shaft. Now I have to decide on whether or not to go with another T56 or just put a th350 or th400 in it and change the rear gears to a 3.73 to make it somewhat streetable. Any opinions?
Thanks for any responses
Matt
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96 Camaro Z28 6spd., custom viper red with pearlcoat paintjob, 355 LT1 11.5-1, GTP stage 2 LT4 heads/intake, GTP-6 cam, full cage, moser 9" with 4.11's, and full suspension. Best so far after shakedown runs (hit rev limiter in the top of 3rd)...still needs tuning and suspension tweaking.
1.658 60', 11.886@116.05, 7.593@91.33 1/8 mile
Best mph 117.31
The Z under construction
92 Talon TSI 5spd. AWD Best E.T.-13.753@98.30mph
1.885 60ft.@13lbs boost--- For Sale!
First run launched at 5500rpms
60ft 1.730
330ft. 4.967
660ft. 7.679
mph 91.07
1000ft. 10.007
1/4 11.955
mph 116.21
Second run launched the same tried dropping the fuel pressure 5lbs to see what it would do...the car didn't respond well to that by slowing 2 tenths and 2 mph.
60ft. 1.741
330ft. 5.060
660ft. 7.840
mph 89.17
1000ft. 10.213
1/4 12.199
mph 114.02
Thrid run I bumped the fuel pressure 3lbs higher than I initially had it set at and softed the suspension a little. I launched at 6200rpms and SNAP!!! the car stopped moving. I am 99% sure it is the output shaft on the T56. It leaks no fluid, all the gear shift fine, the clutch hydolics still work, but the speedo doesn't work when I put it in gear so all point to the output shaft. Now I have to decide on whether or not to go with another T56 or just put a th350 or th400 in it and change the rear gears to a 3.73 to make it somewhat streetable. Any opinions?
Thanks for any responses
Matt
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96 Camaro Z28 6spd., custom viper red with pearlcoat paintjob, 355 LT1 11.5-1, GTP stage 2 LT4 heads/intake, GTP-6 cam, full cage, moser 9" with 4.11's, and full suspension. Best so far after shakedown runs (hit rev limiter in the top of 3rd)...still needs tuning and suspension tweaking.
1.658 60', 11.886@116.05, 7.593@91.33 1/8 mile
Best mph 117.31
The Z under construction
92 Talon TSI 5spd. AWD Best E.T.-13.753@98.30mph
1.885 60ft.@13lbs boost--- For Sale!
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 324
From: windsor,ontario,canada Home of the fastest LS1 and LT1 6-speeds :D
My freind broke his output shaft on his T56 about 2 months ago. He got a new output shaft, took it and the input shaft and got them chryogenically frozen, then got the viper 3/4 shift fork put in and since has run a 10.10 without any issues.
So I guess that it depends on how bad you want to run with the M6?
Good luck,
Roman
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99 CAMARO SS
BORLA cat back
MTI air lid
MCLEOD street twin
HOTCHKISS everywhere
ET STREETS,or ET DRAGS
KTRE 12 bolt w/4.10's
BMR xtreme torque arm
Custom chrome moly cage
ARE stroker w/teeny tiny nitrous.
N/A 485 / 469
NOS 823 / 950
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/FeatureCars/Roman.htm
bests:
1999-13.37@102 stock
2000-11.94@118 bolt ons
2001-10.035@132.84
2002-10.89@125.00(N/A)
-9.94@138.45(N2O)
So I guess that it depends on how bad you want to run with the M6?
Good luck,
Roman
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99 CAMARO SS
BORLA cat back
MTI air lid
MCLEOD street twin
HOTCHKISS everywhere
ET STREETS,or ET DRAGS
KTRE 12 bolt w/4.10's
BMR xtreme torque arm
Custom chrome moly cage
ARE stroker w/teeny tiny nitrous.
N/A 485 / 469
NOS 823 / 950
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/FeatureCars/Roman.htm
bests:
1999-13.37@102 stock
2000-11.94@118 bolt ons
2001-10.035@132.84
2002-10.89@125.00(N/A)
-9.94@138.45(N2O)
Thanks for the reply, Roman. I have been thinking about the cryro treatment but I am still undecided on what I should do. I do not think it is the horsepower that kills these trannies as I only run 11's but rather the shock of the launch. I got a quote to have my tranny internals cryrotreated with a brand new output shaft, a steel 3-4 shift fork, and put back together for $800.00 from D&D. So I am still trying to decide on what to do.
Matt
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96 Camaro Z28 6spd., custom viper red with pearlcoat paintjob, 355 LT1 11.5-1, GTP stage 2 LT4 heads/intake, GTP-6 cam, full cage, moser 9" with 4.11's, and full suspension. Best so far after shakedown runs (hit rev limiter in the top of 3rd)...still needs tuning and suspension tweaking.
1.658 60', 11.886@116.05, 7.593@91.33 1/8 mile
Best mph 117.31
The Z under construction
92 Talon TSI 5spd. AWD Best E.T.-13.753@98.30mph
1.885 60ft.@13lbs boost--- For Sale!
[This message has been edited by Nostang 96z (edited September 09, 2002).]
Matt
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96 Camaro Z28 6spd., custom viper red with pearlcoat paintjob, 355 LT1 11.5-1, GTP stage 2 LT4 heads/intake, GTP-6 cam, full cage, moser 9" with 4.11's, and full suspension. Best so far after shakedown runs (hit rev limiter in the top of 3rd)...still needs tuning and suspension tweaking.
1.658 60', 11.886@116.05, 7.593@91.33 1/8 mile
Best mph 117.31
The Z under construction
92 Talon TSI 5spd. AWD Best E.T.-13.753@98.30mph
1.885 60ft.@13lbs boost--- For Sale!
[This message has been edited by Nostang 96z (edited September 09, 2002).]
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Joined: Dec 1998
Posts: 2,407
From: Windsor, Canada: Home of the FASTEST LT1 & LS1 6 spds :)
Roman was speaking of me, and you are right it is the shock, i broke mine at a stick track and on motor. but i also think we need all the help we can get. i am very pleased with the work d&d performed it cost me bout a grand as i had a reversse gear changed, and new synchro material put in as well.
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