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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Boxed or tubular LCA's?

I haven't even taken my SS out to the track yet, but I know traction is going to be a problem. so I'm looking into getting some lower control arms.

Is there any real difference in strenth or ride between the boxed and tubular arms?

With the mods I have in mind, I,m sure I'll never see over 350 HP or 375 Lbs Tg at the rear wheels if that makes any difference.
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Square tubing is stronger than round tubing, so the Lakewood LCA's would be stronger. With that said, most of the round tubing LCA's will handle a LOT of HP and they're a little less weight. But the Lakewood's are less expensive. I found a set of used Lakewood's (barely used) for $60. Hard to beat that. All aftermarket LCA's will ride a bit harder than stock because they have stiffer bushings in the ends.
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Fo a daily driver I think I've read about poly bushings on the wheel side and rubber on the frame side.

Is using all poly really that rough?

With the power I'm thinking I'll have and running on street tires, will I loose that much traction by using the rubber poly combo?
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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IMO, poly bushings aren't that bad. But if you're not planning a lot of mods I seriously wouldn't worry about aftermarket LCA's. I would use the stock ones and not worry about it. I ran the times in my sig with completely stock suspension, including the stock LCA's. I added the Lakewood LCA's after that because I stuck a Vigilante converter in and have long tube headers waiting to go on and are putting skinnies on this weekend. Don't have any new times with it yet.
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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I've got boxed LCA's on my car, and as a single mod on their own, they're useless (especially with stock RWHP)..........I saw no gain at the track whatsoever. However, I also ordered BMR relocation brackets, and once I get those in, I think that the LCA's will be more effective. With the LCA's, I really didn't notice any deteriorated ride quality either.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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After having a Lakewood Panhard Rod, I wouldn't even consider their LCA's. They few extra dollars on a better quality brand is money well spent.

I noticed an improvement w/ my BMR LCA's. But my stock LCA bushings were a bit worn, and my car had quite a few mods on it when I tossed those on there, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Joe Brodman
After having a Lakewood Panhard Rod, I wouldn't even consider their LCA's. They few extra dollars on a better quality brand is money well spent.

I noticed an improvement w/ my BMR LCA's. But my stock LCA bushings were a bit worn, and my car had quite a few mods on it when I tossed those on there, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.
Interesting....what was it you didn't like about the Lakewood PR? I don't have one, but their LCA's I have are first class quality IMO. Perfect welds, nice fit and finish, etc. Just curious
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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I have Lakewood LCA's, great for the price.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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Interesting....what was it you didn't like about the Lakewood PR? I don't have one, but their LCA's I have are first class quality IMO. Perfect welds, nice fit and finish, etc. Just curious
- You have to assemble it. I mean, come on, they can't even do that.

- Speaking of assembling, the bushings didn't want to fit in right. The holes for the grease fittings were SLIGHTLY too small. Lots of beating to get this thing together right.

- The bushings just seem like cheap, hard plastic compared to about any other aftermarket bushing on my car. Not only that, they were just a hair too wide to fit into the housing bracket on my rear end (both when I had the 10-bolt, and my 12-bolt).

- You have to remove one end just to adjust the dang thing

- All of the adjustment threads rusted fairly quickly.

- I believe it's painted instead of powdercoated (I'd have to go under the car again). I know none of my other suspension stuff has any chips in the powdercoating (unless it's a place I've scraped it), but this thing has a few chips/knicks on it and has never contacted anything.

I bought mine a couple years ago before they went up in price. Now they are around $93.....I'd rather pay the $120 for the BMR unit.
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by Joe Brodman
- You have to assemble it. I mean, come on, they can't even do that.

- Speaking of assembling, the bushings didn't want to fit in right. The holes for the grease fittings were SLIGHTLY too small. Lots of beating to get this thing together right.

- The bushings just seem like cheap, hard plastic compared to about any other aftermarket bushing on my car. Not only that, they were just a hair too wide to fit into the housing bracket on my rear end (both when I had the 10-bolt, and my 12-bolt).

- You have to remove one end just to adjust the dang thing

- All of the adjustment threads rusted fairly quickly.

- I believe it's painted instead of powdercoated (I'd have to go under the car again). I know none of my other suspension stuff has any chips in the powdercoating (unless it's a place I've scraped it), but this thing has a few chips/knicks on it and has never contacted anything.

I bought mine a couple years ago before they went up in price. Now they are around $93.....I'd rather pay the $120 for the BMR unit.
Wow! Thanks for the insight. I guess I won't be buying a Lakewood PR!
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