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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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VEMaster???

Can someone give me a quick run down on how to use this with Tunercat and Datamaster so I can check it out??? Thanks!
Old Sep 1, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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TTT

Anyone using this???
Old Sep 1, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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First you need to have your blm cell rpm and map stuff figured out so that you're using as much of each fuel trim cell as you can.
Then go out and run a datalog...the longer the better.
All you're going to modify in the ve tables is 3000rpm and below so there isn't much of a need to go any higher.
Open vemaster and it is going to ask you for a datamaster file and a bin file. Give it the datamaster file that you just made and the bin file you want to modify.
Then you can set it to adjust to whatever blm you want to shoot for. 124 should work fine in most cases.
Then let vemaster do it's work. It will create a word document that allows you to see how many records it has in each fuel trim cell and what the average blm was in each and what kind of multiplier it used to change the values in your ve tables. It also creates a new bin file (of the same name) with the modified ve tables.
Load the new bin into your chip and go out and do it all over again.
Usually 3 or 4 times does the trick and you'll know when to stop when vemaster is making small changes. Then leave well enough alone you should notice that the car runs much better at part throttle.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Ok, so VEMaster automatically makes a new .bin file with the updated changes, and the word file is just to show you what it changed......Got it.

Have you used it, and did you have any luck, and were you happy with it?
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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I thought VE tables didn't do anything while you're on the throttle? I thought with MAF cars it only looks at ve when either the MAF is disconnected or you are in DECEL??? Thanx.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Fastbird93 - Sounds like you've got it. Yes, I have used it and it works wonders on a ve table that is out of whack.

bunker - look at what year his car is.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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Dan K,

Thanks again for your help. Not that I can use VEMaster right now, since I'm deployed to the mid east, but I'm going to play with it when I get home.

Sean
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Well.. VE Master never changed anything for me... Thanks
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Well.. VE Master never changed anything for me... Thanks
It won't if your car is a 94. It uses the maf tables instead of the ve tables. If you want to see how vemaster would work on your car, set your car to run in speed density mode. Then it will use the ve tables for your fueling. Try it.
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Yes I've done that.. but whats the use if I have a MAF car???
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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If the maf ever fails then you'd be running off of the ve tables...so I guess it'll run a little smoother. Like you said though, shouldn't be a problem on your car. ;D
Old Sep 8, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Yeah... I get you... There should be a MAF master!!! anyone care to try it?? jeje... I think it could be done pretty easy with excel.
Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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I was thinking the same thing! I think someone could do it...probably fairly easy.
Hmmm....
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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(*) - An overflow occurred when applying the adj factor to the
original VE table entry. The max allowable value is being used, but it is
recommended you look for exhaust or intake vacuum leaks, since VE should
never be in excess of 100 (unless you have some kind of forced induction)

Does that message always show up when you run vemaster?
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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While they say that VE Master won't work with 94-95 cars and only works with 96-97, I have noticed a difference on mine... a 1995.

What I have noticed is that my BLM values when driving are closer to 124 and there is less of a split BLM issue then what I had before. While, without a scanner, I may have not noticed the differences, I feel that the closer the BLM's are... and the less the computer has to adjust... the smoother the car.

Also, at WOT, as the BLM's remain under 128... my WOT BLM's stick at 128... whereas, if BLM's were higher... they would also be higher at WOT, and make tuning a little more difficult.

Just my $.02



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