Got a 93 t/a see sig, really thinking about getting the autoprom from moates. How hard would it be to learn computer ****. I'm a wiz at old school, so should i be intimidated at the computer stuff or not?

 

It's not difficult. It's just time consuming finding all the tidbits of information here and there and putting them together and then playing with it to figure out how it really works.

If you have the time and interest, then go for it.

 

Thanks for the positive input.

 

It's pretty simple. At a minimum, to do a good job, you need the editing software, some data logging software, a laptop, the cable, a wideband O2 sensor, and a lot of time to experiment.

More sensors in addition to the O2 would be even better. IAT and MAP are good.

 

Thats a nice GN in your sig, lucky wife Are you over on turbobuick.com?

Prom burning isn't that difficult once you figure out what all you need to do it, and takes lots of reading to figure out what everything does, the actual part of reading / writing the prom is easy...
I think '93s have a prom and not flashable memory thru the ALDL??? is that right? If so, an UV light source, or buy some electronicly erasable chips from digikey.com and then get a burner like the PP2 and whatever carrier you need to put in the ECM to make it easy to get in and out (if you even need one for your application...
Then a scan tool and editing software like Tunercat.com or there's others that are free but maybe not quit as nice and easy.
Here's a link that will teach you all the basic info/goods you need, its on the 3rd gen board, but its all the same principals and the Pocket Programmer 2, PP2 will burn almost any chip...I use it for TBI, TPI, TurboBuicks, and flash chips in the 94-95 LT1 when they won't take a flash thru the ALDL.

 

My father in law (co-owner of the GN) is on TurboBuick. I think his SN is "sailbrd".

 

You are right, I can't flash the chip through the ALDL. I was looking at the moates Autoprom kit. it's a little pricey but it comes with everything except the adapter chip. It also allows for real time emulation and data logging. The when you get it all right you just burn a new chip. What is this "PP2" and what was that link you were talking about? Thanks for the info.

 

Duh, sorry I forgot to post the link... PP2 is Pocket Programmer2, its mentioned in the link and where to get it..its the "chip burner" hardward that plugs up to your PC either at the parallel printer port or a USB version.
http://www.thirdgen.org/promintro

 

I read the prominto that was mentioned in the previous post. There is a lot of information on that site, it seems that the 92+ 93 were very similar computers and that 90-93 are very much alike, relying on the MAP sensor. I am in a similar situtation, needing computer help but not finding much out there. I too will go it alone and get the supplies and the WB/O2 ect...and learn the hard way. Good luck in your "Tuning" Ted

 

I have not had a 93 car, but if they are eprom chip that you have to pull out and "burn" in a chip burner, like the PP2, then the information on the 3rd gen board still applies, just that the actual data stored on the chip will be a little different, thats where the definition file for Tunercat comes in..you get the definition file from tunercat for the 93 LT1.
I beleive the 93 was batch fire and not sfi, and I don't think the tranny was controlled by the ecm.
I've used that thirdgen promintro to learn about the TPIs, then just used that knowledge and started doing TBI engines and even my turbo Buick engine, then later started on the 95 LT1s. All using tunercat and the various def files, and the PP2 chip burner, which will even flash a corrupt flashable 95 LT1 PCM chip which is normally flashed thru the ALDL connection, unless its corrupted.

 

your right about the 93 lt1. It just sucks that if i had bought 1 year newer it would be gravy.

 

Here's another question, If I can get ahold of a 94-95 pcm + wiring harness, could i program this to work on the 93, basically i'm thinking you can edit out he MAF and tranny and it would be the same. How hard would this be if possible. This way i wouldn't have to worry about burning chips and would make it a lot easier to get someone to dyno tune it.

 

wwarnke, in a preivous post (03-08-06) mentioned that there might be a possibility that a FORD O2 sensor, available from Autozone at $95.00 could be used for a W/B O2. Does anyone know the part number of this O2 sensor? Does it do the job of a W/B O2 sensor? Thanks, Ted