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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Emissions here in pa is startin in january. Was told by a friend that being a 1999, i will be plugged in for the obd-2 test. I want to get the ls6 manifold and do away with the EGR. My question is will using ls1 edit or something similar completely erase it so it doesn't show when they scan it?
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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hasn't anybody out there gotten rid of their egr and been hooked up for emissions?
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Sure, it happens all the time. Then the test fails. You can take out the EGR with LS1Edit, but the emissions tester is going to show that it isn't working. And then you fail the test.
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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but would i still fail, if i had deleted the entire system like using ls1edit?
Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Yes, it is going to fail. You don't really "delete the entire system" as most people think. What you are going to do in LS1_Edit is remove the conditions that will cause the EGR to work. It won't do anything anymore and it just sits there physically in your car. If you want to remove it and plug the holes, that's fine, you just lightened your car by removing equipment that does nothing anymore. However, when an emissions computer gets hooked up to your car, it's going to read that the EGR doesn't work (assuming that's what you are talking about. If it's just running a sniffer, you will probably still fail because it will read higher emissions than with the EGR, that's what it's designed to do, lower emissions). Since the EGR is not working, regardless of whether you programmed out the conditions for it to work, you removed the EGR and left it in the PCM for the conditions, or your EGR is still on the car and busted, the emissions computer will see this and fail your car. You can't make the PCM think the EGR is still working. You just turn it off.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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Thanks Doom Master, that is exactly what i needed to know.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:27 AM
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bascially what you would really have to do is do it illegally, as "wrong" as it is, its the only way to pass emissions with an emmissions illegal car.... hmmm wonder why
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