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More torque from a FI 383

Old Sep 22, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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More torque from a FI 383

I have a Bosch fuel injected 383 in my boat. I am wondering how I can get more midrange torque out of it. It is in a Jet boat where the jet unit is only rated to 4500 RPM, so I dont need HP above 4500 RPM what I would really like is to make about 50 -75 ftlbs more torque from 3500 RPM to 4500 RPM that would put it right around 500 ft lbs. Can this be done? Reliability is very important and I need to be able to run it on pump gas. Any ideas?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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I would start by getting a custom ground cam. specifically for your needs.
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28SORR
I would start by getting a custom ground cam. specifically for your needs.
That is exactly what you need to do. The great thing is that reliability and low RPM operation pretty much go hand-in-hand.

Another thing you will want to consider is your intake. I would suggest you talk to a professional to see if they can set you up with a cam/intake combo that would give you the maximum low-end power.
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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For 4500 RPM, I'd consider doing a modified tuned port induction system based on a Scoggin Dickey TPI Vortech intake manifold, some AS&M runners, a set of ported Vortech cylinder heads and a 52mm throtle body.

Put in a Comp Cams hydraulic roller retrofit cam in the 218/224 degree range, or else the GM Hot cam package, some 28 lb injectors, and you should have a pretty nice and torquey engine that is nice and flat in its powerband between 3000 and 4500 RPM.
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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What about changing the jet pump impeller to make it twist to 5,000-5,500? I would imagine that would be cheaper to do.

We had a mild tunnel ramm'ed 468 w/ a berkley jet in our last jet boat and it twisted about 5200. We only had it running that alst part of boating season and sold it w/o the motor and got a 25' Checkmate Convincer.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Thanks for the replys so far. The boat is a river sled with a Hamilton 212. It weighs about 4000 lbs and is designed for running white water in rivers. The 212 is a volume pump made for hauling loads and grabbing aerated water, the pump is only rated for 4500 RPM. What I want is to be able to turn a bigger impellar so that I will have better midrange and load carrying capacity, but I dont want to loose any top end. I.e I need more power.

I will look into a cam and intake. that seems like a fairly sane addition that wouldnt be too hard to put together. How much torque should I expect to gain with such a change?

I am contemplating a Supercharger, any thoughts there?

Thanks again for all the help.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MTRiverRunner
Thanks for the replys so far. The boat is a river sled with a Hamilton 212. It weighs about 4000 lbs and is designed for running white water in rivers. The 212 is a volume pump made for hauling loads and grabbing aerated water, the pump is only rated for 4500 RPM. What I want is to be able to turn a bigger impellar so that I will have better midrange and load carrying capacity, but I dont want to loose any top end. I.e I need more power.

I will look into a cam and intake. that seems like a fairly sane addition that wouldnt be too hard to put together. How much torque should I expect to gain with such a change?

I am contemplating a Supercharger, any thoughts there?

Thanks again for all the help.
MTRR
How much you gain from a cam and intake depends entirely on what your current setup is. If you happen to have a motor that was designed for power up high in the rev range then a swap could get you loads of power down low.

If you want to add a supercharger then go ahead and do it before you spend money on the cam and intake, as both should be matched to the use of forced induction.

Sounds like a cool boat by the way.
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