I FIGURED IT OUT, YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS....
#1
I FIGURED IT OUT, YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS....
Well,
If you all read my prebious two posts, then you would know that I could not get my engine to run, it would just backfire throught the carb. Well I couldn't find the stock timing tab so I bought one from AutoZone, that didn't work, had EVERYTHING right, still nothing. Well, I was ready to pull her out, guess what I find behind the water pump????? THE REAL TIMING TAB, it was directly behind the pump so you have to look down from atop, instead of what I am used to looking from the side. Does this tell me anything about the engine? Well, it runs now, still backfires at high revs though. What do all you guys set you timing at idle? Thanks for all the suggestions guys, later
BamaZ28
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1981 Pontiac FB originally V6, converted to SBC (HEI), Performer RPM, Holley 750 Vac Sec., Chrome Dress up, True Duals
If you all read my prebious two posts, then you would know that I could not get my engine to run, it would just backfire throught the carb. Well I couldn't find the stock timing tab so I bought one from AutoZone, that didn't work, had EVERYTHING right, still nothing. Well, I was ready to pull her out, guess what I find behind the water pump????? THE REAL TIMING TAB, it was directly behind the pump so you have to look down from atop, instead of what I am used to looking from the side. Does this tell me anything about the engine? Well, it runs now, still backfires at high revs though. What do all you guys set you timing at idle? Thanks for all the suggestions guys, later
BamaZ28
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1981 Pontiac FB originally V6, converted to SBC (HEI), Performer RPM, Holley 750 Vac Sec., Chrome Dress up, True Duals
#2
Glad you got it running.
You might pull your spark plugs out at some point and take a look at them. You might have fouled them during all of those attempts to start the motor. They may need a little cleaning to help get rid of those backfiring problems. Of course, it might be something else. I usually set my timing a few degrees more advanced than what the factory settings are. I think I'm currently around 10-12 degress advanced.
Bill B.
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'69 Camaro SS396 with '81 305:
stock except for Performer intake, 600 Holley vacuum (modded), Perf. Dist. HEI, 1-5/8" headers & 2-1/2" exhaust/turbo mufflers,
beefed TH 400 tranny with 11" street convertor & B&M Quicksilver
3.08 posi 12-bolt
P235/45/17 and P275/40/17 Kuhmos on 8x17 Wheel Vintiques rallys
H.O. Racing front coils, Flex-a-Form fiberglass leafs, Herb Adams VSE body bushings and frt. sway bar, '79 T/A P/S box, power disc front brakes w/metallic pads
You might pull your spark plugs out at some point and take a look at them. You might have fouled them during all of those attempts to start the motor. They may need a little cleaning to help get rid of those backfiring problems. Of course, it might be something else. I usually set my timing a few degrees more advanced than what the factory settings are. I think I'm currently around 10-12 degress advanced.
Bill B.
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'69 Camaro SS396 with '81 305:
stock except for Performer intake, 600 Holley vacuum (modded), Perf. Dist. HEI, 1-5/8" headers & 2-1/2" exhaust/turbo mufflers,
beefed TH 400 tranny with 11" street convertor & B&M Quicksilver
3.08 posi 12-bolt
P235/45/17 and P275/40/17 Kuhmos on 8x17 Wheel Vintiques rallys
H.O. Racing front coils, Flex-a-Form fiberglass leafs, Herb Adams VSE body bushings and frt. sway bar, '79 T/A P/S box, power disc front brakes w/metallic pads
#4
Well, my 305 motor came out of an '81 pickup truck and the timing tab is in the middle the same as yours. I think more than anything, it might give you an idea of what year the motor is. But I'm not sure when they started putting the tab in the middle. I know it wasn't like that on the '69 models, but I'm not sure when they changed it.
Hope that helps!
Bill B.
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'69 Camaro SS396 with '81 305:
stock except for Performer intake, 600 Holley vacuum (modded), Perf. Dist. HEI, 1-5/8" headers & 2-1/2" exhaust/turbo mufflers,
beefed TH 400 tranny with 11" street convertor & B&M Quicksilver
3.08 posi 12-bolt
P235/45/17 and P275/40/17 Kuhmos on 8x17 Wheel Vintiques rallys
H.O. Racing front coils, Flex-a-Form fiberglass leafs, Herb Adams VSE body bushings and frt. sway bar, '79 T/A P/S box, power disc front brakes w/metallic pads
Hope that helps!
Bill B.
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'69 Camaro SS396 with '81 305:
stock except for Performer intake, 600 Holley vacuum (modded), Perf. Dist. HEI, 1-5/8" headers & 2-1/2" exhaust/turbo mufflers,
beefed TH 400 tranny with 11" street convertor & B&M Quicksilver
3.08 posi 12-bolt
P235/45/17 and P275/40/17 Kuhmos on 8x17 Wheel Vintiques rallys
H.O. Racing front coils, Flex-a-Form fiberglass leafs, Herb Adams VSE body bushings and frt. sway bar, '79 T/A P/S box, power disc front brakes w/metallic pads
#5
The vast majority of engines that I have found with that timing index have been 305s (or smaller emissiosn motors- 267, 262s, etc). I've heard that some 350s had it there, too, but I've never run into one myself.
#6
Ive seen a handfull of 350s witch had the timing tab behind the water pump..I think myself it was only later models wich the accesory brackets made it impossible to put it in the regular spot..Either that or im figureing that i has to do with the later balancers diameter change and gm swapping to externally balanced engines..
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#7
Thanks Everyone,
I am still looking for the block casting numbers. They are not in the usual front passenger place. The intake was stamped with a number I can't reference as were the heads. The number on the heads started with 140041*** I cant remember the last three. Anyways, Thanks for all the help. I am putting in new carpet and interior beginning of next month, and some headers. My plans are to drive the engine that is in there while I redo all the cosmetics to my taste. I'll keep you all updated, thanks again
BamaZ28
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1981 Pontiac FB originally V6, converted to SBC (HEI), Performer RPM, Holley 750 Vac Sec., Chrome Dress up, True Duals
I am still looking for the block casting numbers. They are not in the usual front passenger place. The intake was stamped with a number I can't reference as were the heads. The number on the heads started with 140041*** I cant remember the last three. Anyways, Thanks for all the help. I am putting in new carpet and interior beginning of next month, and some headers. My plans are to drive the engine that is in there while I redo all the cosmetics to my taste. I'll keep you all updated, thanks again
BamaZ28
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1981 Pontiac FB originally V6, converted to SBC (HEI), Performer RPM, Holley 750 Vac Sec., Chrome Dress up, True Duals
#8
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BamaZ28:
I am still looking for the block casting numbers. They are not in the usual front passenger place</font>
I am still looking for the block casting numbers. They are not in the usual front passenger place</font>
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#10
I have 5 305 engines. all of them out of 79 and 80 camaros. every single one of them you have to look down the top between the water pump to see. that is the stock location of the thing. Even says so in the book for my 80 camaro.
On that note. the 3 engines i cave for my 3rd gens are the exact same way too.
On that note. the 3 engines i cave for my 3rd gens are the exact same way too.
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