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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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"camel hump" heads?

for a mild built 327. they may get a clean up port job too.

and another thing, do these heads look like cursive w's or do they look like normal heads? i have seen many on e-bay that say camel back heads, but look like normal heads.
Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Camel humps are normal looking heads.

"Cursive-W" heads are 409 heads, and no they will not fit a small block Chevy. The 409 is an early 1960's engine which was the progenitor of the big block Chevy in 1965 (396).

The name 'camel-humps' comes from the indentation mark on the ends of the cylinder heads, which resemble two small 'humps'. These are identifying marks, not the actual shape of the head itself.
Old Jul 7, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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thanks for clearing that up for me. so, are they good for a mild built 327. i am only looking for 350-400 HP at the fly. they may get some mild porting done too.n e one know specs?
Old Jul 7, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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Camel humps have been around since the late 1950's in all valve sizes and chamber volumes, right to the early 1970's. The best thing to do is to get the casting # off the head and go do a search on the web. That should reveal whether or not the heads you are looking at are worth putting time and money into.
Old Jul 8, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Double hump heads are outdated. You can run a milder cam and get the same power by using a set of new vortec heads. You can pick up a set for a little over $400 and get a vortec style intake also. This will outflow ported double hump heads. Just another option.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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This is true. I run Vortecs on my street/strip '77 and they are *awesome* heads, no doubt about it. Tremendous power and torque for the budget street thumper.



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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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i was only considering these heads because i have seen them at swap meets and ebay for under $200

i considered the vortec heads too but dont really want to waste a good performer intake.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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I would encourage you to do the vortecs. Sell the intake and buy the votec compatible Edlebrock intake. The "$200" swap meet heads will cost you a fortune. Do you trust the springs? I would hope not. What about hard to see cracks, or worse a lousy port job or nicked seat? Buy a set of Vortec heads, and intake and witha mild modern cam you can expect over 400 hp (Chevy high performance did a buildup several years back and ended up with 418hp with a really small cam).

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't trust a set of swapmeet heads.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 01:53 AM
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checkout these links for info on sbc heads..
Mortec (identification of heads)
Another Identification page
Flowrate page
Chevy High performance heads info
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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I bought a set of rebuilt camel hump heads from a friend of a friend. I'll never do that again. They tapped all the time sounded like a collapsed lifter and the studs started pulling out. Either buy new or from a machine shop.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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I tell ya for the minimal cost of new heads (s/r torquers or similiar) and some minor head work on them its almost better to go that route unless you get a killer deal on some good heads.. I have one buddy that actually bought 3 sets of the 461 heads to have a good matching set.. he was torqued by the time the smoke cleared..
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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thanks yall. the more i think about it. i will prolly just buy some new sportsmans or something. thanks.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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The best deal going right now are the Pro Lightning heads (iron) complete for around $700. Get the 180cc heads for yor 327. The Pro's outflow the SP II's and the Dart Iron Eagles.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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Ya, but for about three hundred more he could get Trick Flow aluminum heads. Thats where the Vortecs come back into play. Then again, ~$450 for heads then another ~$200 for the intake and you're w/in about $400 of aluminum heads. Thats the delima I faced before I sold my old car. lol

The moral is, you're better off if you don't settle for something cheap. Just safe your cash a bit longer and get what you want.

Good luck on your project though.



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