Well, I may very well sell the LT4 Pontiac Firehawk I purchased last month.

The main reason for this is simply I have a modded 4th gen that barely gets driven due to low miles, mods happening constantly, and it's only been in the rain a handful of times, and never in harsh weather.

To all those skeptical, this is indeed the real deal. Not a fake or a clone, but a real, 1 of 29 SLP fully-optioned, 6 speed LT4 Firehawks, 330HP, hardtop(of course), Black exterior, dark grey leather interior, all options including monsoon cd, power antenae, pw, dl, cruise, etc..

This one was a driver, and was purchased locally from a dealer who obtained the car from the original owner. Carfax is clean and can present VIN to serious inquiries. Can also produce photos upon request. All is dead stock on the car minus the following items:

1) Seats (all 4) appear to be from a '95 - older leather TA. Color is correct, but the seats do not match any data provided on a '97-later firehawk/TA interior. I had planned on purchasing new seats or very clean donors.

2) Stock rims/tires - apparently, the original owner of this car was either retarded or simply kept the stock rims/tires, as there are now OZ 17x8" rims on it now w/brand new Kuhmo Z-rated tires. Personally, I hate these rims, and they do have minor flaws, but once again, intended to purchase brand new, year correct Firehawk rims & tires for it as well.

3) Paint. The car is black. shows every flaw imaginable. With that said, it ain't perfect. There are several minor scratches and even a few what I'd call "dings", not big-arsed dents, but in the light, if you look real hard you can see flaws. On a scale of 1-10 for paint condition of an fbody (10 = flawless), I'd rate the paint a 5 or 6. So add paint to the list of needs...

Virtually everything else on the car is dead stock, OE/SLP correct. The car runs great. Clutch feels stock, and down the road may need replaced, has a little chatter. Rear end is perfect, no clicks or noise or vibration of any kind, no whine. Suspension feels cool, never had an fbody w/the billstein/eibach setup before, and it transfers weight like no other fbody I have owned. But I'm trying to locate a squeak (apparently from sitting) in the right rear area of the car. I think it's either a spring or shock, perhaps even an LCA or panhard, who knows, but that will be fixed this week when I put it on a lift. AC works well, heat, defrost etc, no smell of coolant in any setting. All SLP options are inside left and right door sill along w/factory options.

NADA and Kelley do not pull up specialty cars like this, however, a 1997 firehawk books like this: Low - $15,150 Mid - $17,650 and High $23,000.

The bottom line is, this is more a museum-type car or one that can be pampered more than I think I care to do for it, with one already having that done to it now. I don't really have the time to put my heart into fully restoring this to perfect, and would prefer a driver than a garage queen. With the Z down for the moment, it's been my driver for a couple weeks now. Not the best idea for a car such as this. Although it was a driver, I feel goofy driving it daily, especially in heavy traffic.

Would appreciate any info on what to ask for the car, or can entertain reasonable offers as well, shoot me a PM if seriously interested. Possible trade/cash entertained.

Thanks, sorry for the book.
Dan

 

Dang, not a single reply or offer, wtf?

 

i believe i have seen this car for sale at a dealership up in jax. how much did you pay for it?

 

the truth of the matter is, it needs at least 5k worth of work to get it back to original and due to the mileage it will never be a "museum piece".

You can probably get 12-14k for it, but I wouldn't pay much more since it would need need a bunch of cash sunk into it to get it back to original, but thats just me. The people that actually would collect an lt4 car and know what they are want a perfect and original car.

 

The amount of miles hurt the value, It wouldnt be as bad if you had the right wheels and correct seats(the lt4 hawks had special seat covers that were part of the lt4 package*good luck finding those*). If I were you I would find a set of wheels and fix the tranny then sell it

 

With the right wheels a collector would pick it up I'm sure.

 

Yeah I agree the mileage is odd for a rare car like this, and as luck would have it, not having the stock rims & seats is about the icing on the cake. But both are attainable, the rims quite a bit easier than the seats.

My point with it was whether or not it was a good idea to keep as the only real thing I would be doing with it is driving it. There are many that collect cars etc that may have issues w/doing just that with this car, kinda like the collectable vette owners assoc. or whatever. Make no mistake, I have NO problem driving this car, just feel that perhaps someone else may actually have collectable interest in the car, that's all.

And in all actuality, ya think the mileage is gonna effect it 20 yrs down the road? I seriously doubt it. Now not finding the seats may a little, but virtually nothing that made this car an oddity or rare is missing from the equation. My fear = cracking the block, totaling the thing, fire, flood, etc...

 

Depends....it will still be worth more then normal Firehawks obviously, but in 20 years from now if it had 10k on it, you can rest assured the value would probably be double then if it had 100k on it.

The seats are just normal TA lumbar seats arent they? they're not REAL hard to find, just not cheap either. The wheels aren't very difficult to find either, just pricey.

IMO, if you're gonna sell it, put the right wheels on it, for the $1500 it would cost, you'll probably make more then that on the sale since it appears original

Ohh...and personally, if I could afford to, I'd just park it and keep it clean. Someone needs to pamper her But if you want to drive it, its your car and your right, under normal driving I can't see you breaking anything that would not be repairable, then again, accidents do happen and it would be an awful shame to lose the car because some moron ran a red light.

 

Oh I don't doubt the value would be a little more, but take for instance, a hemicuda, or a ZL1 camaro, etc, you know, cars that were also an oddity or rarity among enthusiasts. Now, I'm not gonna say its value is gonna equal one of those autos, but overall production numbers make this a very rare piece, and to be honest, as an avid fbody enthusiast, it makes me kinda nervous driving around town in a car this rare, regardless of it's mileage.

I could let it sit, but due to the mileage, I may drive her some. I intend to fully restore it to dead stock, but in the meantime, I may have to flog it here and there.

I know if I was in the market for a ZL1, honestly, I could care less if it came w/the original wheels & seats, but I'd be more than trying to verify it's authenticity, numbers matching, etc. But all folks are different, and expect/desire different things from their vehicles. I have a feeling the seats will be the trickiest part of this restoration, I'd have to assume, due to the mileage, that is why the interior was swapped.

Strange enough, carpet/upholstry, etc looks much better than any 100k car I've seen that wasn't replaced. Not a stain to be found.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...963820068&rd=1

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=80885

 

I have those seats in it, I believe it needs these:

http://www.lt4firehawk.com/ There's a picture to links to what this guy's lt4 hawk's seats look like, which is why I say I need the other seats.

Also, here are the wheels/centercaps it needs:

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=04030

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=80064

Those, except chrome, and I see they have stopped reproducing those now, lovely...

I may opt for those rims though for drivers anyways, they are affordable, look nice, and are a start in the right direction, unless I find somebody selling the '96-'97 WS-6 or Hawk chrome rims...

 

I remember looking inside another LT4 car and it didn't have those seats, but rather the ones you have. never seen seats like those before

You could buy those wheels and have them chromed easy enough, depends how much $$$ you felt like spending.

 

What are the exact miles ? How much do you want for it ?

 

I think perhaps there were seats that could be obtained that differed from the ones in my car, so maybe they are the originals. I really thought they changed over the years, as the modded '94TA I traded in w/$ for it had the same, except tan cloth. Maybe the seats in the car on that site are incorrect, who knows...

The damn things are so rare, I do not know everything about them, but I'm learning more daily. I have always been an avid and diehard Z28/SS fan, and as my previous rides will show, I've stayed true to fbodies for well over a decade & a half. But I do not really have any use for this car, although I really love owning an LT4 car. The exhaust is very unique. It's so quiet you can barely hear it, yet has a growl all its own above 3500rpm. Once it's warm, it just sort of resonates kind of like the late great '89TTA did, must have to do w/the resonators on the tips of the exhaust I'd assume...

Anyways, I was looking for somewhere in the mid teens, and I'm getting more and more close to completing it back to dead stock by the day. It has 103k on the clock, and CARFAX is clean, and had 1 previous owner before the dealer got it. I will post the vin upon request via PM or email, along w/more info.

 

looking to trade for a 1996 "ss" m6???