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Old May 22, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyperspeed97z28
Arnt they all fiberglass ???

The z/28's will perform just as well as the ss, as listed above, its only got ram air and better catback then the z/28's ....
An SS is a z28 with an "SS PACKAGE."
See the package on any window sticker for specifics.

This is why the SS is $5,000 + more costly.
Old May 22, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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no man. a z28 will run just as fast as an SS if you put cold air intake and a good exsost system on it. fiberglass panels only take of about 75lbs. it aint that much.
Old May 23, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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I don't know what "fiberglass panels" you are referring to, other than the hood(on the ss), front fenders, spoiler, and doors. The only "lightweight" part the SS has over the z28 is the hood, and the weight loss from that could more than likely be offset by the 17 inch chrome wheels that come on it (15 inch painted < 17 inch chrome in weight, and its rotating).

SS cars have a different intake setup, and a different exhaust setup. It's not some glorified "325hp+ out of the box" engine, its the same thing as the z28. You said it yourself, an SS is a package for the z28. This "package" has the same engine. The exact same.

To the original poster: buy the car based on what you like, and what is affordable. If you like the SS hood/spoiler, get the SS. If you want a car that's just as fast but more subtle and inexpensive, get the Z28. Either way you cannot go wrong.
Old May 23, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eddierox


You will also need to add the fiberglass panels and the stock out of the box 325+ HP LS1/LS6 motor for a Z28 to run like an SS.
1) What panels are you referring to?

2) There has never been a stock LS6 in an Fbody
Old May 23, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spootydinkcamaro94
1) What panels are you referring to?

2) There has never been a stock LS6 in an Fbody
Since everyone answering these posts owns an SS except me .. hee hee .. I invite you to put a Z28 & SS side by side.
Go around all the body parts and tap on the them. You will notice that the sound changes on the SS due to its fiberglass components as opposed to the z28 which will make the same "metal" sound.
The 2001 & 2002 SS's are based on the LS6 block design, most noticably the intake. Check the part numbers and reference them with LS1 & LS6 numbers.

I have a 2001 SS .. who do you think is qualified to know ..
Old May 23, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spootydinkcamaro94
I don't know what "fiberglass panels" you are referring to, other than the hood(on the ss), front fenders, spoiler, and doors. The only "lightweight" part the SS has over the z28 is the hood, and the weight loss from that could more than likely be offset by the 17 inch chrome wheels that come on it (15 inch painted < 17 inch chrome in weight, and its rotating).

SS cars have a different intake setup, and a different exhaust setup. It's not some glorified "325hp+ out of the box" engine, its the same thing as the z28. You said it yourself, an SS is a package for the z28. This "package" has the same engine. The exact same.

To the original poster: buy the car based on what you like, and what is affordable. If you like the SS hood/spoiler, get the SS. If you want a car that's just as fast but more subtle and inexpensive, get the Z28. Either way you cannot go wrong.
Put your in the sand and never read the SS Package options .. Buy a Z28, It's a cheaper car ..
Old May 23, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by eddierox
Since everyone answering these posts owns an SS except me .. hee hee .. I invite you to put a Z28 & SS side by side.
Go around all the body parts and tap on the them. You will notice that the sound changes on the SS due to its fiberglass components as opposed to the z28 which will make the same "metal" sound.
The 2001 & 2002 SS's are based on the LS6 block design, most noticably the intake. Check the part numbers and reference them with LS1 & LS6 numbers.

I have a 2001 SS .. who do you think is qualified to know ..
Go tap your quarter panels and get back to me.

The LS6 block is just that...a block. A real LS6 (the whole thing) has 405 hp.
Old May 23, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eddierox
Put your in the sand and never read the SS Package options .. Buy a Z28, It's a cheaper car ..
I already said it was cheaper, thanks for proving my point again.

Put my in the sand, eh?
Old May 23, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Oh yeah, by the way..... read this:

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...htp_realworld/

A quote: "12.89 run in a stock 1999 Z28 (GMHTP 7/99)"

That is the fastest documented stock LS1 time that I am aware of, can you explain why it was from a z28 and not an SS?




FORGOT :

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ght=fiberglass

Amazing how a website dedicated to F-bodys manages to concur on z28s and SSs to be the same speed....

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Old May 23, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by spootydinkcamaro94
Go tap your quarter panels and get back to me.

The LS6 block is just that...a block. A real LS6 (the whole thing) has 405 hp.
Tap the front fenders, doors, quarter panels, hood and back deck.

You are referring to the 405 HP Z06 LS6 .. only difference is bumpier cam and intake .. I have the LS6 block and intake ..

Please read the tech specs for the LS1 & LS6 blocks ..

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Old May 23, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by spootydinkcamaro94
I already said it was cheaper, thanks for proving my point again.

Put my in the sand, eh?
Yes the z28 is a can of beer .. the SS is champagne .. why do you think its more expensive?
Old May 23, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spootydinkcamaro94
Oh yeah, by the way..... read this:

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...htp_realworld/

A quote: "12.89 run in a stock 1999 Z28 (GMHTP 7/99)"

That is the fastest documented stock LS1 time that I am aware of, can you explain why it was from a z28 and not an SS?

FORGOT :

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ght=fiberglass

Amazing how a website dedicated to F-bodys manages to concur on z28s and SSs to be the same speed....
Hee hee .. yes read this .. the praise is for SS not the Z28 ..

What was that you were saying about the LS1 & LS6? Its all there pal ..
Old May 23, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eddierox
Tap the front fenders, doors, quarter panels, hood and back deck.

You are referring to the 405 HP Z06 LS6 .. only difference is bumpier cam and intake .. I have the LS6 block and intake ..

Please read the tech specs for the LS1 & LS6 blocks ..

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to body panels. Reference my first post in the thread about that. My car (a 94 v6) has fiberglass front fenders, doors, back deck. The quarter panels over the rear wheels are metal. The only thing you have that I dont is the hood.....

I know which LS6 I'm referring to
Old May 23, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spootydinkcamaro94
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to body panels. Reference my first post in the thread about that. My car (a 94 v6) has fiberglass front fenders, doors, back deck. The quarter panels over the rear wheels are metal. The only thing you have that I dont is the hood.....

I know which LS6 I'm referring to
Super! All you need now is the LS1 er LS6 er LS7 er LT1 motor .. er ..
on second thought .. just get some SS badging ..

whats the diff as you say?

hee hee ..
Old May 23, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by eddierox
Super! All you need now is the LS1 er LS6 er LS7 er LT1 motor .. er ..
on second thought .. just get some SS badging ..

whats the diff as you say?

hee hee ..
There are better reactions to being proven wrong.

Since you like to turn things around on people, there is a lot of difference between a v6 and v8 in these cars. I can tell you if you'd like, but you wouldn't believe me. Regardless, I'm done.

To the original poster: sorry about this, good luck!



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