'91 Formula T.P.I. 5-speed in NJ
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'91 Formula T.P.I. 5-speed in NJ
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula - Maui blue. Grey interior. 5.0 T.P.I. 5 speed. 153,000 miles. Power steering, brakes, locks, windows and antenna. T-tops. Cruise. A/C removed. Dual cat. 3.42 posi. Kenwood CD. Original G.M. alarm with both original key fobs. Everything works.
I purchased the car off Thirdgen.org August of '06. Car was garaged since day one and pretty meticulously maintained by the original owner. I am the second owner. It is in pretty good overall condition. There is no rust anywhere. All weatherstripping is in perfect shape. Even the t-top weatherstripping looks new. T-tops do not leak. Interior is in very good condition. Oil changed every 3000 miles since new. I have $2200 in receipts and another $1000+ in other parts that i cant find the receipts for but its obvious that there new parts. Cant find the receipts for stuff like the tires and headers. Which is over $800 right there.
The good. all done in the last year -
8 new SVO 19# injectors
Throttle position sensor, coolant temp sensor, water temp sensor
Cap, rotor, plugs, wires
Edlebrock T.E.S. headers with A.I.R. tubes
Flowmaster 17150 exhaust. 3" intermediate pipe. Single 3" outlet on drivers side
B&M Ripper shifter
Ebay cold air kit with a K&N filter
2 new catalityc converters
Remaned computer
Hypertech thermo master chip
Hypertech fan switch
Hypertech 160* thermostat
G.M. O2 sensor
Lokar flexible oil dipstick
M.S.D. Blaster coil
Proform shift light
4 B.F.G. G-Force KDWS 245/50/16
Front brake rotors
Front brake pads
Air condioning bypass pulley
Coolant overflow tank
Dome light cover
Passenger head light motor fixed ( went up and down on it's own when the lights were on when i got the car. Both light motors operate perfectly )
Formula throttle body cover
I'm sure i'm missing some stuff. The original owner had the struts, shocks and a few other odds and ends done in 2001 at the dealer he bought the car from. All work done on the car by him was from the dealer he got it from. All work done while i've owned the car done by me exept the headers, tires and Cats.
The bad -
Paint is original. As you can see from the pics the car looks good. The paint is starting to peel on the roof on both sides of the t-tops. Fenders, doors, trunk, quarter panels and hood look good. Rear wing is starting to fade slightly. There is no spydering on the rear wing or front facia. As i said there is no rust. But unforts the body isnt perfect. The original owner backed the car into a wall after washing it one day. Mangleing the driver side quarter panel a little right next to the tail light. This also pushed the quarter panel a little out of wack. Kinking it slightly by the gas cap. As you can see from the pics it's really not noticeable. But it is there. I am complimented daily on the car. Literally. So it's more of an eye sore to me than those that see the car. Even the original owner decided not to fix it. Which kinda surprised me.
At the moment it needs a windsheild. A small chip has now become a crack from drivers side to passenger side. I might have the windshield replaced before it is sold for the right price. So therefore the "Formula" on the windshield will not be there.
The conclusion -
As i said the car is quite nice. Not perfect. But with 153,000 miles and spending 15 years of it's life in Brooklyn, NY it was a rather nice find. Engine, trans and rear are all original. The clutch, also original, grabs well but will need to be replaced eventually. I took the car to Englishtown once last year and could feel the clutch not quite grabbing as it should, but a year later it is still holding up fine. There are a few typical rattles but no creaks. Does not creak or rattle when pulling up a driveway or parking lot. Quite solid all around. With 135,000 miles and messed up timing it went 14.8 @ 92.5 stock. Havnt ran it since i did all the stuff to it. The car originally had air conditioning. I removed all but what sits in front of the radiator. A leak test showed that just about everything was leaking. It just made life easier to remove it, be it alot warmer in the car unforts. Hey, thats what it has t-tops for.
I have all the original paperwork for the car. Build sheet, window sticker, pretty much everything he had he gave me from when he bought the car.
I am looking to get $3200 obo. I have almost that into the car over the past 15 months.
I purchased the car off Thirdgen.org August of '06. Car was garaged since day one and pretty meticulously maintained by the original owner. I am the second owner. It is in pretty good overall condition. There is no rust anywhere. All weatherstripping is in perfect shape. Even the t-top weatherstripping looks new. T-tops do not leak. Interior is in very good condition. Oil changed every 3000 miles since new. I have $2200 in receipts and another $1000+ in other parts that i cant find the receipts for but its obvious that there new parts. Cant find the receipts for stuff like the tires and headers. Which is over $800 right there.
The good. all done in the last year -
8 new SVO 19# injectors
Throttle position sensor, coolant temp sensor, water temp sensor
Cap, rotor, plugs, wires
Edlebrock T.E.S. headers with A.I.R. tubes
Flowmaster 17150 exhaust. 3" intermediate pipe. Single 3" outlet on drivers side
B&M Ripper shifter
Ebay cold air kit with a K&N filter
2 new catalityc converters
Remaned computer
Hypertech thermo master chip
Hypertech fan switch
Hypertech 160* thermostat
G.M. O2 sensor
Lokar flexible oil dipstick
M.S.D. Blaster coil
Proform shift light
4 B.F.G. G-Force KDWS 245/50/16
Front brake rotors
Front brake pads
Air condioning bypass pulley
Coolant overflow tank
Dome light cover
Passenger head light motor fixed ( went up and down on it's own when the lights were on when i got the car. Both light motors operate perfectly )
Formula throttle body cover
I'm sure i'm missing some stuff. The original owner had the struts, shocks and a few other odds and ends done in 2001 at the dealer he bought the car from. All work done on the car by him was from the dealer he got it from. All work done while i've owned the car done by me exept the headers, tires and Cats.
The bad -
Paint is original. As you can see from the pics the car looks good. The paint is starting to peel on the roof on both sides of the t-tops. Fenders, doors, trunk, quarter panels and hood look good. Rear wing is starting to fade slightly. There is no spydering on the rear wing or front facia. As i said there is no rust. But unforts the body isnt perfect. The original owner backed the car into a wall after washing it one day. Mangleing the driver side quarter panel a little right next to the tail light. This also pushed the quarter panel a little out of wack. Kinking it slightly by the gas cap. As you can see from the pics it's really not noticeable. But it is there. I am complimented daily on the car. Literally. So it's more of an eye sore to me than those that see the car. Even the original owner decided not to fix it. Which kinda surprised me.
At the moment it needs a windsheild. A small chip has now become a crack from drivers side to passenger side. I might have the windshield replaced before it is sold for the right price. So therefore the "Formula" on the windshield will not be there.
The conclusion -
As i said the car is quite nice. Not perfect. But with 153,000 miles and spending 15 years of it's life in Brooklyn, NY it was a rather nice find. Engine, trans and rear are all original. The clutch, also original, grabs well but will need to be replaced eventually. I took the car to Englishtown once last year and could feel the clutch not quite grabbing as it should, but a year later it is still holding up fine. There are a few typical rattles but no creaks. Does not creak or rattle when pulling up a driveway or parking lot. Quite solid all around. With 135,000 miles and messed up timing it went 14.8 @ 92.5 stock. Havnt ran it since i did all the stuff to it. The car originally had air conditioning. I removed all but what sits in front of the radiator. A leak test showed that just about everything was leaking. It just made life easier to remove it, be it alot warmer in the car unforts. Hey, thats what it has t-tops for.
I have all the original paperwork for the car. Build sheet, window sticker, pretty much everything he had he gave me from when he bought the car. I am looking to get $3200 obo. I have almost that into the car over the past 15 months.
Last edited by IRF305; Dec 18, 2007 at 12:51 PM.
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