sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by Lower
I was (poorly) referring to the trunk "well". If you stand at the back bumper, and lift your hatch, the deep well area that's about a foot deep and 18 by 30 or some odd inches.
I don't know what you mean by "I took out the box vent, and plugged this hole up". Are you talking about the air vent? I'd leave it there. Helps get you hatch closed, among other things.
I don't know what you mean by "I took out the box vent, and plugged this hole up". Are you talking about the air vent? I'd leave it there. Helps get you hatch closed, among other things.
Yeah im talking about the air vent, this is at the bottom, of where people usally put their stealth box. What other things is that air vent their for? Once it stops raining I will probably put it back on. But Doesn't the carpet itself trap any air leaveing or entering the air vent from the inside, since you have to remove the carpet to get to the air vent, doesn't the carpet itself act as a close barrier?
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by ponyackn
Does the spray or the mat quiet exhaust or engine noises from entering the cabin?
Originally Posted by sir dyno
Yeah im talking about the air vent, this is at the bottom, of where people usally put their stealth box. What other things is that air vent their for? Once it stops raining I will probably put it back on. But Doesn't the carpet itself trap any air leaveing or entering the air vent from the inside, since you have to remove the carpet to get to the air vent, doesn't the carpet itself act as a close barrier?
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
well, the interior was sprayed with 12 cans of 3M ruberized undercoating, and all noise making rattles were fixed with foam weatherstripping. The doors are the only thing that got Dynamat, and even that is now getting sprayed this winter with 3M.
IMO the spray-on sound deadening is a much better solution than the stick-on. The entire purpose of sound deadening is to add mass to the panels such that it takes more energy to get them to vibrate. With dynamat, adhesion is not gaurenteed to the metal (I Have proof of this from when I removed the dynamat that was installed in my car; probably about a 50-60% adhesion percentage). With the Spray-on types the adhesion is 100%.
Personally dynamat or similar is good for some projects; but personally, I'll stick with the Spray-on/Foam combo.
Oh, and I've got a 2kWrms stereo in my car with 2 Kicker S12L7's; there were ZERO rattles nor was the music that loud until you opened a window/door.
IMO the spray-on sound deadening is a much better solution than the stick-on. The entire purpose of sound deadening is to add mass to the panels such that it takes more energy to get them to vibrate. With dynamat, adhesion is not gaurenteed to the metal (I Have proof of this from when I removed the dynamat that was installed in my car; probably about a 50-60% adhesion percentage). With the Spray-on types the adhesion is 100%.
Personally dynamat or similar is good for some projects; but personally, I'll stick with the Spray-on/Foam combo.
Oh, and I've got a 2kWrms stereo in my car with 2 Kicker S12L7's; there were ZERO rattles nor was the music that loud until you opened a window/door.
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Yup, 3M ruberized Undercoating. Sound deadening itself unless it's a foam style; is just adding mass to change the resonant frequency of the parts that it's bonded too. Thus the weight of dynamat. The 3M RU works great in all the cars that I've used it in (I've sprayed 6 different cars), and they all sound great. It reduces ambient noise immencely.
As for rattles; foam weatherstripping between whatever is rattling is the best. I've never figured out how dynamat is supossed to stop rattles.
As for rattles; foam weatherstripping between whatever is rattling is the best. I've never figured out how dynamat is supossed to stop rattles.
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
My last car was a Civic, and I am the only Civic owner ever to use Dynamat to stop a trunk rattle. I bought it to put it on the trunk lid to stop the trunk from rattling. It didn't work. I put it on the back of my license plate to stop that from rattling. But then I got it to actually do something. I put it on the trunk latch. As in I actually covered the loop of metal that the latch catches on with Dynamat. It would get torn up if I opened the trunk a lot but there wasn't really any storage in there anyway due to the amps & subs. So a big huge square of Dynamat, I only used about 2 square inches. And it KILLED the trunk lid rattle. But I never had any problem with adhesion, I just used my hand to press it on the trunk lid. But basically, Dynamat is just mass loading, so if you apply it to the car panels it will just kill road noise or ambient noise, but the only rattle prevention it does is if you actually apply it to the point of contact of whatever is rattling. Use the 3M stuff for mass loading, Dynamat is a rip off.
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Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
As for rattles; foam weatherstripping between whatever is rattling is the best. I've never figured out how dynamat is supossed to stop rattles.
I had always thought thats what dynamate did; remove rattles- caused by the bass-(subs). But ed2 doesn't remove the rattles. But the inside bass sounds better just doesn't sound as loud from the outside.
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
Yup, 3M ruberized Undercoating. Sound deadening itself unless it's a foam style; is just adding mass to change the resonant frequency of the parts that it's bonded too. Thus the weight of dynamat. The 3M RU works great in all the cars that I've used it in (I've sprayed 6 different cars), and they all sound great. It reduces ambient noise immencely.
So are we talking at a level of being able to reduce inside the cabin, "Loudmouth+longtubes+ory" loud?? Towhere it is not annoying and you can hold a decent convo?
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by ponyackn
So are we talking at a level of being able to reduce inside the cabin, "Loudmouth+longtubes+ory" loud?? Towhere it is not annoying and you can hold a decent convo?
I run Hooker LTs, custom X-pipe, twin Bullet Mufflers, then dump out the sides infront of the rear tires... and I can have conversation just fine.
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
Yup, 3M ruberized Undercoating. Sound deadening itself unless it's a foam style; is just adding mass to change the resonant frequency of the parts that it's bonded too. Thus the weight of dynamat. The 3M RU works great in all the cars that I've used it in (I've sprayed 6 different cars), and they all sound great. It reduces ambient noise immencely.
As for rattles; foam weatherstripping between whatever is rattling is the best. I've never figured out how dynamat is supossed to stop rattles.
As for rattles; foam weatherstripping between whatever is rattling is the best. I've never figured out how dynamat is supossed to stop rattles.
I'm planning on deadening the entire floor when I install new carpeting and am trying to pick a good product to use. I'm wondering if the spray would make for an uneven layer which would feel weird under the carpet.
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Originally Posted by JSK333
How does the thickness compare to Dynmat-type deadeners?
I'm wondering if the spray would make for an uneven layer which would feel weird under the carpet.
I'm wondering if the spray would make for an uneven layer which would feel weird under the carpet.
Re: sound deading, whos installed this in their car
Peel and seal, is the best and cheapest sound deading out there, home depo, or lowes have it 12 bucks a roll, read this article http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/, i have peel and seal in the entire back of my camaro, i have 2 12' alpine swx-1242d's each pumping out 1000 watts, before the peel and seal my car felt like i was on the west coast in an earthquake, after the install doesnt vibrate at all very happy with the stuff, does add a little weight but its worth it in the long run
Last edited by chasmanz28; Jan 30, 2006 at 11:58 PM.


